Hey Riot, don't force 50% win rate by pairing with bad players. Make games fair.

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Is this not then rigging the game? If its suddenly boosting you to a higher MMR than you're capable because you go on a win streak. Not only is that just as rediculous...

Think about that from the OTHER point of view? SUddenly those guys are seeing you in their games, and you're causing them a loss because you're in an MMR you have no business being in...

Kinda the same damn thing you're saying is impossible or doesn't happen, yet here you are.. saying it does in the same breath..

Well no because if the game doesn't put you in a higher mmr, you (not you specifically, but people who actually are a bit better than where they currently are) will be getting to higher ranks for free since you will be playing against the same difficulty opponents while your lp goes up. If you go on a big winstreak, the game assumes you are better than your current elo. Unless the winstreak was pure luck, there should be no problems with your mmr going up.

hashinshin went on a 20 something fame winstreak, na

Statistics and common sense.

Losses happen, and samples get more uniform over a large size.

There are tons of people with high winrates, as well, 60-70% is not out of the ordinary for a smurf or someone working hard on climbing and improving. Are you going to suggest riot chooses to rig specific people?

It would be easy to rig one person to a 50% winrate, but none of these monkeys using it as an excuse for their losses seem to realize other players exist. For every loss there is a win, for 5 people at a time.

If the system restricts a majority of players to a 50% winrate, than nobody could have a higher or lower winrate outside of statistically insigificant short streaks. It would be mathematically impossible to climb. There cant be more total wins than losses.

Even if it was picking and targeting specific people, it would vastly complicate matchmaking.

Oh, and why the hell would riot do this in the first place? It serves no purpose.

It is just an excuse made by trash players to not accept the fact they are trash. Get over it, take the conspiracy theories away.

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Challenger, Master, Diamond has shitty players?

d5 is full of players who don't care and do stupid stuff. Challenger and masters have people intentionally throwing because they recognize a player on their team who they don't like. Did you miss all the drauma with the echo fox acadamy players recently?

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Mmr system is meant for chess or 1 versus 1 games, not for team games, that's why the elo system in this game sucks lmao. Jesus how many proofs people needs to understand that the SoloQ of this game is really bad designed. Even faker said it, before people who were challenger wasn't able to drop to masters, just a few points in a losing streak by their own tilt, nowadays it's like the SoloQ empairs you with the worst players that the game can offer to you just to see if you can carry them with an extra mobile champ or global ult champ just like Dopa does... wtf. Just like when tyler1 dropped from masters to plat 1 without any variance in his playstyle, i remember when this posts were sporadic, now its like everyday there are 2 or 3 with so many upvotes.

Whether or not mmr is meant for 1 vs 1 and whether or not riot is actively rigging the game are two completely different issues. I was responding to someone claiming the game is rigged.

As far as your point goes, every system sucks for individual rankings in a 5v5 game. MMR is used by so many games because it happens to suck less than all of the alternatives.

About the tyler1 arguement.

This game changes.... you have to change your playstyle with the game or be left behind. I personally know little about tyler1 but if you are EXTREMELY well known and play without variance................. maybe people know what you are going to do and counter it? Maybe you are playing to an old meta after a patch....

You have to have variance.

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Can you show me the math then? And if it's impossible then how are other games so successful at it? When playing Starcarft 4x4 I was diamond playing against diamond players... each game was more or less enjoyable and it was extremely rare to get a player not of the diamond quality. How are they doing it if it's so impossible?

What large multiplayer games "will actually match you with players that have no business being in the MMR range that you are playing" after a winstreak? As far as I know, only mobile games attempt to use such a model and that is for 1v1. Other large mobas use an elo system similar to league. When you win, you get better allies and opponents. When you lose, you get worse ones.

Anyway, your accusation is that league will intentionally give you worse players as allies as you go on a winstreak. That means initially, you can be paired up with anyone in your elo range. However, as you win more and more games, the game becomes more and more restricted in who it can pair you up with because it has to find worse and worse players. As the subset of players get smaller, your queue times will skyrocket.

And to be clear I'm not talking about players who are having a bad game or maybe aren't performing as well, I'm talking about blatant seeding of players who have no business being in a game at the current skill level that you are at. It should be impossible for a player to get queued up in a Gold level game when they have only played 1 ranked game before, don't understand CS or basic warding. That's Bronze level play, and I don't say that negatively about Bronze but that is what Bronze is for. How does this player skip Silver and get into a Gold game (not duo with anybody)? And note, that player goes through a lot of hell and abuse by everybody in the game (including the other team).

The system is broken, badly broken.

Players develop in different areas at a very different level. You are probably biased towards your own playstyle and don't understand other ones which are successful at silver and gold levels.

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Ignorance is bliss. You didn't prove anything other than you fail to realize what's going on lol...

You sound exactly like a flat earther. There is evidence that forced winrate doesnt exist (smurfs, people that actually climb) and you just can't see it. If there was a forced 50% winrate everyone would be silver. Actually reaching a 50% winrate after having a 90% winrate is just the result of reaching your personal peak. For some it's Silver 5 for me it's Plat 3 or 4.