Like I pick Trynda support and people flame and play bad, they get so tilted and they sabotage their own game play. They don't even try because they think it's just bad and they can't win because someone took a sub-optimal pick... So they give up before they even try their best. Not all, but unfortunately it happens quite a lot in low elo.
Death by Glamour7 votesmaybe don't make them tilt by picking trynda support?
Bobloser35551 votesYeah that's one way... but I play him because I enjoy playing him, sides it's not just Trynda...any off meta pick can make allies tilt even if they are not bad.
Death by Glamour1 votesyeh I know, used to play abit of janna mid
had to stop doing that cause team mates rage
TheCodeisCupCake6 votesOk, tell me what Tryndamere offers to your team as a support. Unless your maxing** Mocking shout** and rushing Targons level 3, you could be considered trolling. Unless this is normals of course, in which case who gives a shit have fun.
Verxint2 votesI'm all for non-meta options that make sense. Tryn support is not one of them.
Elite4Runner3 votesMocking Shout would be pretty much the main reason for taking Trynd support, but considering that it is a 20/35/50/65/80 AD reduction and potentially even a 30/37.5/45/52.5/60% slow FOR 4 SECONDS, .. that is pretty handy.
He doesn't really do much to support the ADC directly, but he deals damage, mitigates damage (in a way), he is resource-less, he has built in sustain, his Q gives him AD and his passive gives him crit that he doesn't need to spend gold on. ..
I wouldn't say he is a good support, .. but I could see it working to get the ADC fed, and he would always be a relevant off-tank / bruiser / split-pusher (depending on how he is built), without needing to spend much gold.
Bobloser35551 votesxactly
Pika Fox2 votesTrynd support has been an off meta pick for yewrs that works. Its even seen moderate pro play. Suggesting its trolling is flat out wrong.
Bobloser35551 votesthx for the info but where have you seen it in high elo? the reason I pick him is because he is very tanky and hard to kill for the enemy, so if they focus me instead of the adc we have infinite sustain...and it's not that easy to focus the adc with a Trynd supp because I be right in their face.
Pika Fox1 votesHe was meta in pro a few years ago. -50+AD at low levels was massive for a while.
Sona Ping1 votesHe isn't and it isn't.
Pika Fox1 votesHe is and he was. -50+ AD at low levels winning trades for free and dumpstering the enemy CS is pretty massive. Hes not an easy support, but he is a legitimate support pick and has seen pro play off it.
Bobloser35551 votestrue sometimes I press W just before enemy adc tries to last hit and it can make him miss the cs
Bobloser35552 votesMocking shout slows and reduces attack damage,** tankiness** in lane and team fights, plus I can buy support items like Knights Vow.
FOR JUSTICE4 votesi mean its pretty obvious the troll in this situation is you, unless its normals to which it doesnt matter.
Bobloser35551 votesso you are one of those who would tilt and play bad for this reason?
FOR JUSTICE1 votesofc not
but if it was ranked, ya darn strait i would have reported for trolling. if it was normals i wouldnt have cared very much
Bobloser35551 votesit's ranked, so you would rather me play Annie support and lose than Trynd support and win?
SwiftKitten884 votesWhy do people sabotage their own chance of winning?!
Like I pick Trynda support.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
The Irony
Elite4Runner3 votesI get this a lot. I like to pick sub-optimal picks in Normals just to challenge myself or see if something CAN work.
I picked Lucian jungle, and was immediately flamed by my own team in champion select. This already put me on tilt and my bot lane was reluctantly to even help me leash, .. so of course I'm immediately put even further behind. I got invaded several times and died, which was my fault and a result of playing an sub-optimal champion for jungling. After this pretty much everyone on my team was flaming and pinging me. So I muted all of them and played out the rest of the game the best I could.
Eventually, I started hitting my power spikes and basically became a second ADC, allowing us to pressure towers really well, and we won the game. I don't know if they changed their attitude at any point in that game because I had everyone muted, .. but I do feel like I was able to keep my own focus because I didn't see their comments.
ForFoxSakes3 votesYou're making sub optimal picks where your team needs to hard carry your shit pick and it's their fault they lose when they cant carry you?
Dumbest & most entitled logic ever
Elite4Runner2 votesI never said it was their fault that they lost ... because they didn't lose. .. we won.
Which only goes to show that they were wrong for giving up before we even loaded into the game.
I'm saying, if they had been more open and willing to work with me, I might have not had as hard of a time early on, and I might have hit my power spike sooner.
MidnightBurger3 votesWell speaking from experience with ppl that do this. If it's in ranked you are trolling. You are hurting your teams chances because you wanna troll around and make up a new meta. Do that shit in normals. Ranked is for playing serious, now i'm not gonna sit here and be one of those ppl that say playing the new nunu right now is griefing because he has a low wr because that's just dumb, he's very clearly a jungle pick. Now yes I'm not gonna feel very thrilled about having a Janna jungle. "But guys it can work" gtfo
Elite4Runner1 votesI literally said that I do this in Normals in the first line.
MidnightBurger1 votesOkay that's fine as i said. I'm saying when ppl do this in ranked it's where i have a problem. So you can't read that well. I'm also trying to tell you why others think the way they do, hence answering your question.
Elite4Runner1 votesYou used the word "you" a lot, which gave me the impression that you were saying that I was doing this in ranked and trolling my team. I was hurting my team's chances because I wanted to troll. .. so yeah, it looked to me like you were the one who couldn't read.
I also didn't even ask a question, .. so ...
MidnightBurger1 votesYou have a ? in the title. Dear lord.... some ppl
Elite4Runner1 votesI'm not the OP lol
You're replying to my comment
MidnightBurger2 votesOops you're right. THat's mb
JoeAnarchy1 votesWell speaking from experience with ppl that do this. If it's in ranked you are trolling. You are hurting your teams chances because you wanna troll around and make up a new meta. Do that shit in normals. Ranked is for playing serious, now i'm not gonna sit here and be one of those ppl that say playing the new nunu right now is griefing because he has a low wr because that's just dumb, he's very clearly a jungle pick. Now yes I'm not gonna feel very thrilled about having a Janna jungle. "But guys it can work" gtfo
new nunu is a better support IMO
MidnightBurger3 votesYou probably thought that pyke was a better jungler too lol. They even show in his trailer he's meant for jungle, consume is a jg ability, snowball: good for pathing and ganking, snowball barrage: great for follow-up to his giant snowball. He's not a support. I played him on support and i felt worthless most of the game
JoeAnarchy2 votesYou probably thought that pyke was a better jungler too lol. They even show in his trailer he's meant for jungle, consume is a jg ability, snowball: good for pathing and ganking, snowball barrage: great for follow-up to his giant snowball. He's not a support. I played him on support and i felt worthless most of the game
P: Gives the ADC more attack speed, for all ins, and sieges. Q: Procs relic shield, and can harass enemy laners. also allows for quicker dragon takes, being in botlane would allow Nunu to be right there for an early dragon, and basically allows them to roam with the jungler easier after laning phase. W: is a knockup, I.E. C.C. allowing for better all ins and peel. gives good team fight engaging. E: has a slow and a root, I.E. C.C. allowing for better all ins and peel. has good team fight usage. R: Has a slow. is good for team fights and cleanups.
yea he can jungle, but his kit now makes for incredibly good support.
everything on Nunu's kit is amazing for a support. i've played with some nunu supps since he came out, and i've played with some nunu junglers, and i liked him better as support.
Bobloser35551 votesdo you realize that some people play their non meta main better than the current op meta pick????
ForFoxSakes3 votesYour only jg lucian game in the history https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2852784645/216613344?tab=overview
"But we won so wtf is the problem" right? Your score of 3-8 and doing half the damage of everyone on your team (incl support) and being a total deadweight while the rest of the team basically 3v5 the entire game. Also a low bronze level game where nobody knows what to do, so you can't claim that shit picking is recommended to all and is fine. Fact is you were a massive negative impact to the team
Elite4Runner2 votesOh look, the detective is here!
Yeah genius, I didn't do well. As I said, I was behind from my first camp because my team didn't even want to help me leash. Then I got invaded.
I never said I carried. My point wasn't "Hey Lucian Jungle is OP" .. It was that I was trying something that wasn't meta and my team IMMEDIATELY jumped down my throat about it. My team CAUSED ME TO BE BEHIND because they were too stubborn to even give me any benefit of the doubt, which is exactly what the OP is talking about.
I pointed out that we won because the other person seemed to be saying that my pick caused my team to lose the game, which we didn't. I might have not been the one to carry, but I did help my team by being able to pressure towers, which is exactly what I said in my initial comment, and that did make a big impact on the outcome of the match, but the stats will not show you that.
Bobloser35552 votesxactly, they accuse you of troll and put bricks on your path to prevent you from helping the team as best you can.
Edgenheim2 votesI would understand you if you were just picking a champion that's not fitting in the current meta but......trynd support?!?!it is basically asking for a lost unless you're bronze elo cause a lot of things get unpunished in that elo but even then that already lowers your chances of winning the game.Of course people would flame you for that.Trynd is in no way effective as a support.You would be useless as a support since trynd needs kills to do dmg/be tanky and his mocking shout's cc would be nothing compared to other supports.Not to mention that you will get poked down and possibly killed by the enemy bot laner quite a lot which would leave your adc fending for himself and as a result making him lose farm and pressure and in turn will lose you the game
Bobloser35551 votessry but you simply do not understand Trynd support, I can see that from your assumptions that Trynd is easy to poke out of lane and his mocking shout being ineffective, I have given my adc double kills thanks to Tryndas mocking shout, and if they focus me they already make a big mistake since i can heal it back with my Q while my adc pokes you back to your Nexus :)
Pika Fox2 votesTfw everyone in this thread doesnt realize trynd support has been a valid off meta support pick for years, and saw pro play at most 2 years ago.
HalcyonDweller2 votes"Why do people sabotage their own chance of winning?!"
Because their egos are fragile and they can't stand the thought that the world doesn't revolve around them. They feel entitled to have you play something they approve of, even though they have no right to dictate your free choices.
That said, Trynd support could also be considered sabotage. You might want to find a duo partner who's willing to lane with you while you do this, that way your team is less likely to flip out.
Out of curiosity, does Trynd's Shout still reduce nearby champions' AD?
Bobloser35551 votesOut of curiosity, does Trynd's Shout still reduce nearby champions' AD?
yep imagine how strong that is vs ad in team fights
HalcyonDweller1 votesYeah, I imagine it can work out quite well in skirmishes / trades in the bottom lane too.
In that case I think that you should just find a marksman who's willing to duo with you and let you play that. It sucks that people tilt and get upset and act like babies, but you can't fix that. If the team shows an unwillingness to work with your desired pick it's better to adapt or try again the next game, rather than try to force it in that particular game.
Bobloser35551 votesI'm trying to find another supp pick that I enjoy in case team gives me hell or Trynd is banned, thinking about Blitz maybe.
HalcyonDweller1 votesGood for you :)
And yeah, Blitz works!
If you like being different - Zac, Poppy, and Jarvan all work as supports too.
Need Gold 4 Tent1 votesstop spam pinging my aery and spellthief 
DemainaNyx1 votesHey, J4 has a slow and a knock up. Just take Font of Life and build Ardent/Athene's, then get Locket and Redemption so you don't die in your ult and your team should be fine. /s
Need Gold 4 Tent1 votesHey, J4 has a slow and a knock up. Just take Font of Life and build Ardent/Athene's, then get Locket and Redemption so you don't die in your ult and your team should be fine. /s
Correct except the /s doesn't belong. Nidhogg is playing him as an ardent support in high elo because Aery actually reprocs every 2 seconds as a shield on your ADC when you throw out E.
LordKentravyon1 votesLike i agree with your point in general people put the final nails on their own coffins by tiltig way to hard over stupid stuff and are too busy fighting in chat to play the game
But you can't pick trynd supp and be like "why do they sabotage the game"
Bobloser35551 votesBut you can't pick trynd supp and be like "why do they sabotage the game"
remeber when Trundle supp was a trollpick? then the pros did it and all a sudden it was accepted