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Nerf Yi's stackable attack speed boosts

Fckjaxsuo43v3r·10/13/2019, 12:31:09 AM·22 votes·9,604 views

Hi,

It's not a rant, it's a matter of gameplay balance and mind sanity. Yi can use item 3124 to get more passive attacks, dealing more on hit damage and reducing his own Alpha strike CD, making him untargettable. When his passive and item 3124 stack, he can also use Lethal tempo to get even more AS and unlock the AS cap, item 3161 to get double the benefits from his ult and lethal tempo, while using item 3153 and item 1416 and blue summoner 11 giving him all the CC he needs. Now he can break the AS limit while having free true damage, %hp damage, magic damage, physical damage, and he can basically reach enough AS to reset his Q CD EACH SECOND as long as he can attack something, and his Q ensures he can because of it's stupid range.

With that, you have a Yi that keeps shredding you 10x faster than anyone (5x more than Vayne), basically it's like he arrives you're dead before you can do anything, and he is untargettable every second, even more often if he kills champs and after activating R from item 3161 passive. How can you beat a champion you can't hit and that pops you the moment he arrives on the map because he moves faster than R Kled while in combat as well as outside combat? Please change Yi's passive or make it unable to apply any on hit effect, and delete Q CD lowering by auto attacking. You can't give him an unlimited DPS (so much that it's more OSS, one shot per second), a spammable at will untargettability that is also a gap closer, a MS buff, immunity to slows (including AS slows for God's sake and I'm an atheist!) and a free regen/damage reduction ability that makes him hard to kill if you can't interrupt it so he can be full life again 3 sec after the fight if he was even scratched.

Before seeing the absurdity of Lethal tempo, item 3161 and item 3124 on him, I thought he was beatable. Now I know he just needs to alpha strike and instant BPS you and you can't do shit about it if he's reached you by that time, which isn't hard with 600+ MS and slow immunity + a refreshable gap closer.

If his Q really had the announced CD he would be very dangerous but you could gang up on him and kill him. With his AA lowering Q CD each time he hits, he's simply untargettable all the fight and he pops everyone before you can do anything about it.

I know he needs to be killed early, but it's the kind of champ, just like Yasuo , that spikes so insanely with every item he get that you can't do anything against him if he can get gold from anywhere, be it by stealing gold to his laners with any kind of gold funnelling strat he decided without asking his mates. In solo Q he's so abusive that he might take my ban over Fiddlesticks (who has like 5 sec CC on someone and silence on several people alongside enormous burst/dps just by standing in ult even while zhonya is active), Veigar (cage is so game breaking, even if you don't hit the walls it limits your field of action drastically, and let's be real, any monkey can play Veigar solely with ult missing hp damage and cage in solo Q), Yasuo , Urgot , Akali , Pantheon and Sylas .

If only Yi's alpha strike had a minimum CD and didn't reset on kill, he would be beatable. But even after I could 1v1 him with my Lee Sin (both of us were fed), he just became so insane that I couldn't even target him during the fight, he was in alpha strike all the time I could Q and I couldn't even R him at the end of the game because he was too fast and had alpha strike on less than 2 sec CD for sure, with or without taking kills. Even being 3 on him we couldn't end his stupid "press R, right click and press Q each time it's available". He also regens so fast it's plain stupid.

Champions with gimicks more often than not have counterparts (like Pyke, whose R is gamebreaking, has weak abilities and good base HP but doesn't gain any hp with items), but Yi's only limit was attack speed cap, and with Lethal tempo he has no limit anymore. Free roaming, uncatchable and instant depops anyone in sight. Please Riot, fix him.

PS: to people who think of starting an argument with me for playing Lee Sin, I don't play Lee often but I know how to use his R and Q together, which is enough to kill most auto attcking champions and squishies, and Lee isn't my beloved champion, I was just looking for something that could play vs Yi and Jax AND Morgana at the same time, and Lee was what I found the most practical because of leaving Yi/Jax out of AA range in 1 kick and following them to kill them after the danger has worn out.

29 Comments

Mihalikb10/13/2019, 1:13:28 AM12 votes

Another champ that often turns into a SoloQ and especially low elo stomped is Udyr. But whenever Udyr gets out line he gets hit by the nerf hammer, hard. But Yi... Yi has been terrorizing low Elo and SoloQ for ages, and they just let it fly.

Yi is basically Tryndamere, Teemo and Mundo rolled into one in sheer stupidity and annoyance, especially as there's less counterplay to him as any of the 3 above.

A champ that which if he is even or slightly ahead will reliably 1v5 in team fighting just by pressing Q.

He's like a "Play this for Pentakills" champ. If he is ahead, you can FF. If he is behind he can still reliably 1v1 most people.

Hayaishi210/13/2019, 12:56:15 AM11 votes

Yi is completely broken. Anyone can tell by the sheer amount of insane damage he does in little time.

But he isn't an issue in pro play so why would Riot care.

Zero Shingetsu10/13/2019, 12:41:12 AM9 votes

It would certainly be a big help. Yi needs a major rebalance, and I'd say the way attack speed feeds into his power is one of the biggest glaring problems with him.

XJ9999999999999910/13/2019, 9:46:07 AM5 votes

Just build attack speed redcution items and play champions with attack speed slows!

oh wait, his ult makes it so his attack speed cant be reduced, cuz counter play.

KalokasIsMyDaddy10/13/2019, 6:40:05 AM3 votes

I main Yi, but the "no counterplay" part is wrong. Yi is probably the champion that's most affected by cc. He stomps in iron-silver because people there are clueless and/or cant land cc.

The only possible problem his kit can have is that his E stacks with AD, which makes him stupidly strong mid-late game.

Sure, he can build QSS and then get Merc's which works on him, but he has to build jungle item, rageblade and maybe BotRK, before he gets QSS. Unless he completely stomps you, in which case it's not really the champion's fault.

Sucction10/13/2019, 6:09:21 AM3 votes

Yeah no. Yi isn't at all in a position for nerfs. He's average past silver, and godawful past platinum.

The solution here, sadly, is really just to 'git gud'

Saezio10/13/2019, 1:08:33 PM3 votes

Seriously there is like 20 Junglers that can reliably make yi a non factor in any game. Yi can't do shit before he gets at least 2 complete items. And even then he can be burst in 1 cc.

Only way yi is effective is if he is left alone for TONS OF TIME. And then suddenly people decide to fight him 1v1 or without CC.

Light of Madness10/13/2019, 11:15:55 PM3 votes

he is the kind of champ that can go die for a kill and will get the itens he needs to 1v5.

RIOT thinks it is OK to have champs like that ^^

Meme God Shrek10/14/2019, 12:47:24 AM2 votes

This is the result of the fundamental problem with stat stick champions. Champs like Master Yi, Udyr, and Jax just check to see if they have higher numbers than you and if they do you lose, no skill required and there's virtually no counter play if you're a champion with little to no CC or mobility.

CyanideImpact10/15/2019, 2:44:41 AM1 votes

Yi is in a good state right now if you compare him to stuff such as mid to late game Sylas and Qiyana and Pantheon. Especially Qiyana and Pantheon.

Did you see AHQ vs TL Day 3? Rainbow picked Qiyana and got trashed early game and just because he got a few items in more than halfway through the game he started almost one shotting people and Rainbow did delete mid game rakan. He was there then poof.

And don't get me started in the 60 times ( real number, not exaggerated) Pantheon was banned in worlds this year. There was only one game that Pantheon didn't get banned and he got picked and the team won.

Niggel Wessom10/13/2019, 2:41:26 AM1 votes

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pXHoney10/13/2019, 1:55:21 AM1 votes

Yeah I am amazed that a champion like yi exists with all these items that benefit him so much.. he is annoying sometimes, but I can mostly deal with him..