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Revert Runes

lumanachi·11/22/2018, 5:04:41 PM·62 votes·14,620 views

We can go on and on with how stupid the new rune system make this game. No matter how many time the balance team decides on how they want to balance it, it just really not going to happen. Season 9, we are gonna have the same issue. Like, DH was very disgusting in S8 but at least it was more controllable since it was more powerful late game but now it more stupidly over tune that it should really just get deleted. Getting like 70% of my health just deleted by a Karthus ult is not interesting or fun to play against, it just plain stupid.

The old rune system is S7 was so much better, and there was more verity depending on your play style.

23 Comments

Horrible Human11/22/2018, 5:23:44 PM38 votes

The old rune system actually allowed differences in play style too. Much greater than we have now anyway.

Rexxiee11/22/2018, 5:24:38 PM26 votes

Remove runes reforged 2018

Jesus Is My King11/22/2018, 5:17:49 PM18 votes

yesssss

JAAAAAAAAAAAAYCE11/22/2018, 11:07:01 PM15 votes

If only Riot actually cared about making their game better.

DNFVixen11/22/2018, 7:48:48 PM15 votes

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We can go on and on with how stupid the new rune system make this game. No matter how many time the balance team decides on how they want to balance it, it just really not going to happen. Season 9, we are gonna have the same issue. Like, DH was very disgusting in S8 but at least it was more controllable since it was more powerful late game but now it more stupidly over tune that it should really just get deleted. Getting like 70% of my health just deleted by a Karthus ult is not interesting or fun to play against, it just plain stupid.

The old rune system is S7 was so much better, and there was more verity depending on your play style.

For the love is Christ YESSSS!!! I miss the old runes and masteries more then anyone can know, if they reverted and just made runes free it would bloody well fix all our problems.

Demented Gag11/23/2018, 12:18:18 AM12 votes

Bring back old runes, make them all avaliable and free, and rework the masteries. Simple.

Naalith11/22/2018, 7:37:23 PM6 votes

Delete all runes. They compensate weakness and accentuate strengths way too much, in both systems. If all the stats and scaling were done in game, I have a strong feeling the game would feel far more balanced and scale correctly.

Pandemic Punch11/23/2018, 9:07:23 AM3 votes

New system is way better. Especially with the latest addition. Good riddance trash old rune system. Been here since season 2 and the old system was always garbage.

FoxV11/22/2018, 11:00:42 PM2 votes

Me figuring out the old runes back is like this WHAT DOES ALL OF IT DO? me now click click click* done in seconds (for anyone in bronze)

Disulfiram11/23/2018, 9:25:18 AM2 votes

It's not the new Dark Harvest: Karthus could always do that, even with Predator; you just weren't used to seeing it. Some math: Karthus' ult at level 18 No runes: 0 AP: 550 damage 350 AP: 813 damage 700 AP: 1075 damage

With the old runes/masteries (DFT+33 from scaling AP glyphs and AP quints)(dft actually applied to every target, not just the lowest one, but let's ignore that here): +0 AP: 583 damage +350 AP: 889 damage +700 AP: 1195 damage

Last season, with Predator (the rune he used to take the last season): 0 AP: 730 damage, 25% more damage than DFT+old runes 350 AP: 1080 damage, 21% more damage than DFT+old runes 700 AP: 1430 damage, 20% more damage than DFT+old runes

Now, with the new Dark Harvest: 0 AP: 630 damage +5 per soul

  • needs 20+ souls to outscale Predator
  • needs 0+ souls to outscale DFT+old runes (8% more damage at 0 souls)

350 AP: 945 damage +5 per soul

  • needs 27+ souls to outscale Predator
  • needs 0+ souls to outscale DFT+old runes (6% more damage at 0 souls)

700 AP: 1260 damage +5 per soul

  • needs 34+ souls to outscale Predator
  • needs 0+ souls to outscale DFT+old runes (5% more damage at 0 souls)
FéliXXX11/23/2018, 12:45:27 AM1 votes

bring old runes back pls i lethality is trash cos of new runes

Ferox11/24/2018, 12:11:00 AM1 votes

All anyone wanted was for old runes to be free and for pages to be editable in the pre-game lobby. Runes Reforged was something unnecessary that nobody wanted or asked for. It's apparent now that it is just a watered down combination of old runes and masteries to appeal to small brain players who don't understand how stats work.

It's unfortunate that Riot doesn't know how to say "oops we messed up let's revert the system to when it worked well" because they just keep making changes that make the game feel worse each patch. Honestly I'm done with ranked until they nerf damage because the snowballing is so volatile and makes players a lot more toxic since games become unwinnable because of what one person did wrong.

Rαy11/23/2018, 7:13:48 PM1 votes

I really do not get how Riot does not see they could slow down the decline of their game massively by just reverting the rune system and champion base stats. It seems like the Chinese internet café scene is too important, so they force twenty minute oneshot fiestas down our throat.

I just want my favorite game back, but I guess that does not happen. I can not take another year of absolute frustration. It is sad, but I guess I will turn my back on this game after six years and spend my free time meaningfully again.

MikeJ122O11/23/2018, 8:15:53 PM1 votes

Old rune styles let you pick a more variety of bonus stats, unlike what we have now for preseason (magic resist, armor, health, attack speed... no lethality, health regen, bonus gold, etc.) I used to get mana runes with lethality on old Urgot so I could play him as an assassin with the E,Q snipe combo and not build any mana items.

NaturesMayhem11/23/2018, 1:34:33 AM1 votes

They can't and they won't. A project like that would be high risk low reward as there's so much to remove from the code with interactions and so on. It would be a lengthy endeavor with many possible errors all for the sake of a small portion of their community complaining.

Don't forget about money either. From the sounds, to the visuals, to the brainstorming, to everyone involved, there were a lot of paychecks that were signed. Tencent is a company and their first priority as a company is money, no way in hell would they revert all that work because it means money wasted. Which is also partly why they keep moving forward, because that's the only way to go, any straight up reverts means money wasted.