When I mean toxic I mean people who have a large amount of reports or under a chat ban. Draft pick has too many trolls who are shut out from ranked and then go into draft to ruin others experience.
NinjaToad997 votesBut then they would troll harder. You know, stuff like; Oh, first pick took mid and I'm last pick? WHATEVERYASUO4LYFE LOCKS
Rikari7 votesHow about they dont q me up with the guy I just reported
Tserris3 votesTrolls aren't toxic.. Trundle is a nice guy.
At least, he was before the lore was used as toilet paper :D
Now he's an asshole.
Damn it Trundle.
SmurfOfYixuan2 votesYou can't be serious, toxic trolls are far more likely to be toxic if they are not first pick, because if they don't get their favorite champ/role? "gg afk"
Anonymousaur2 votesI think toxic players should be forced to play 10 to 20 CPU vs Player games before they can do normal/draft/aram/etc.
Konidias2 votesSo if the player is being toxic because they are stuck on a losing streak, making them end up in their worst role every game so they have the least possible chance to win... is supposed to somehow prevent further toxicity?
I get frustrated when I'm on a losing streak and then don't even get to play the roles I'm best at. I think this is a terrible idea.
Really hard for me to NOT be toxic when I call a lane pref, then first pick takes it... I call another lane pref, and second or third pick takes it... at that point it starts getting hard to not just troll. Especially on a losing streak already. Then you just KNOW if you do badly on your worst pick, the team will blame you for it and that will just set you into a toxic frenzy.
KaisadiIIa5 votesDon't flame and you won't be last pick every game, it's pretty easy.
Of course it's easy to not flame when you are on a losing spree, I've even lost 5 times in a row due to stupid things like afks or trolls and still I never flamed anyone.
Also, nobody will let you a lane just because you called it. If you call top and I want to play top because it's my best lane, should I let it to you? Nope. You have not more priority than me when it comes to calling lanes.
Finally, if you are toxic, I hope you get last pick every game until you just quit and let mature players play.
Konidias3 votesDon't flame and you won't be last pick every game, it's pretty easy.
Of course it's easy to not flame when you are on a losing spree, I've even lost 5 times in a row due to stupid things like afks or trolls and still I never flamed anyone.
Also, nobody will let you a lane just because you called it. If you call top and I want to play top because it's my best lane, should I let it to you? Nope. You have not more priority than me when it comes to calling lanes.
Finally, if you are toxic, I hope you get last pick every game until you just quit and let mature players play.
You are the kind of player that makes me want to be toxic.
Wow, you don't flame after losing 5 games straight? Congrats! Some people actually care about losing though. If you don't care about losing, then don't play ranked.
Nobody will let me have a lane because I called it? Oh boy, you're one of THOSE people. Guess what, this is a TEAM game, and that means if you are first pick, you should be listening to your team and figuring out where everyone wants to go. Not this attitude of "I'm first, I get whatever I want, screw anyone below me". This is not a team player attitude. This is an "every person for themselves" attitude.
It shouldn't be about PRIORITY. It should be about what helps the team overall. If you are a decent player, then you should be able to play multiple roles well. So if someone wants top and says they are a top main, and you want top but you could also mid just fine... then just GO MID. Don't take top from the guy just because you CAN. This immediately creates problems in the team and now instead of a united team of 5, you have 5 solo players who are only worried about their own situation... You get people who won't group, won't listen to anyone, will run from a fight they might have won because it might hurt their KDA... etc.
Is your top lane first pick SO important that you're willing to ruin any chance of teamwork your team might have had? Is it worth screwing over a teammate to where they are upset and stuck in a role they are bad at?
I know why, because when that person does badly you can call them a Bronze and blame them for your loss, and then tell them they need to be super proficient in all roles, even though you aren't.
mvargus3 votesYou are the kind of player that makes me want to be toxic.
Wow, you don't flame after losing 5 games straight? Congrats! Some people actually care about losing though. If you don't care about losing, then don't play ranked.
Don't think that someone who doesn't flame after losing 5 games straight isn't frustrated and angry. They might be, but they also might have enough experience and maturity to realize that flaming isn't going to help them avoid losing six in a row.
I hate every loss I have, but lashing out isn't going to help me win the next one. People who know me note that I get more intense and less talkative when I'm on a losing streak as I focus on my own play. But I never find a need to flame someone.
KaisadiIIa6 votesDon't worry, I usually annoy stupid people, that isn't something new for me.
Wow, you don't flame after losing 5 games straight? Congrats! Some people actually care about losing though. If you don't care about losing, then don't play ranked.
I care about losing, I live every game like I was at the finals of the World's cup. And when I lose, I feel frustrated and angry but, guess what? I'm mature enough to not pay my frustrations against other people, and, in the same way, I won't tolerate someone insulting, flaming or annoying me just because he's try to vent his anger. Your argument isn't different than: "I hit my girl because I love her. People who don't hit their girls don't know what love is".
Nobody will let me have a lane because I called it? Oh boy, you're one of THOSE people.
That's stupid. It's not about "you called top so you won't play it". It's about: You main top and so you want to play top. I main top too, and I want to play it too. What is the most fair way to decide who will be top? Pick order, so everyone will have the same chance of playing his main role.
If you are a decent player, then you should be able to play multiple roles well.
Same for you, so, why should I let you top? You are able to play multiple roles well, aren't you?
Is your top lane first pick SO important that you're willing to ruin any chance of teamwork your team might have had?
Is your top lane pick so important that you are willing to flame at everyone else who want to play top and thus ruin any chance of teamwork your team might have had?
I know why, because when that person does badly you can call them a Bronze and blame them for your loss, and then tell them they need to be super proficient in all roles, even though you aren't.
People who use "Bronze" as a pejorative term are plainly stupid. You have no right to blame someone for your loss, even when everybody have games that are lost clearly because of someone else. The chances of having a truly bad player in your team are less than having one at the opposite team (since your team have 4 slots for trolls or feeders assuming you are not, and the enemy team has 5 possible slots). Believe it or not, players you get paired have often the same skill as you, that's why you share the same MMR.
I main mid, and most of the times I win my lane with no real problems. And you know what annoys me the most? The enemy team ALWAYS asking me to report their mid because he's "bad" or "troll". They aren't bad. I just played better than them. If I have to win, someone has to lose. And the worst part is that those times when I lose my lane I have my team asking to report me. Following the logic of people like you, we all are bad and we all have to be reported.
And let's not talk about every time someone blames other for apparently no reason, because if you die it's easier to blame your jungle, or your top, or your teacher, or your Pope, than it is to blame yourself and try to do it better next time.
tl;dr: You are a jerk.
Konidias2 votesDon't worry, I usually annoy stupid people, that isn't something new for me.
Passive aggressive comment #1. Oh you don't want to call me stupid directly because then you would be flaming me? I get it, you probably make passive aggressive insults to people in game too but then try to play it off like you aren't being toxic. Guess what, you are.
I'm mature enough to not pay my frustrations against other people, and, in the same way, I won't tolerate someone insulting, flaming or annoying me just because he's try to vent his anger. Your argument isn't different than: "I hit my girl because I love her. People who don't hit their girls don't know what love is".
Passive aggressive comment #2. "I'm mature enough to do this, and if you don't do the same, that means you are immature". Also why are you making analogies about hitting women? Sounds like you just can't defend the actual argument so instead you insert analogies.
That's stupid. It's not about "you called top so you won't play it". It's about: You main top and so you want to play top. I main top too, and I want to play it too. What is the most fair way to decide who will be top? Pick order, so everyone will have the same chance of playing his main role.
Passive aggressive comment #3. "That's stupid" I think you meant to just call me stupid but calling my comment stupid is close. The most fair way to decide who will be top is by someone actually being a team player and sacrificing their preferred role. But that someone is never going to be you because you're first pick, so screw everyone else, right?
Same for you, so, why should I let you top? You are able to play multiple roles well, aren't you?
Why shouldn't you? Because you're "first" in a random ordering system? Pick order should not matter. Communicate with your team. Ask the guy who prefers top what other roles he is good with. I'm sure you just lock in top and say "going top" and then shrug if the guy says anything.
Is your top lane pick so important that you are willing to flame at everyone else who want to play top and thus ruin any chance of teamwork your team might have had?
Same for you, is your top lane pick so important that you are willing to create bad blood between yourself and a teammate before a match even starts?
People who use "Bronze" as a pejorative term are plainly stupid. You have no right to blame someone for your loss, even when everybody have games that are lost clearly because of someone else. The chances of having a truly bad player in your team are less than having one at the opposite team (since your team have 4 slots for trolls or feeders assuming you are not, and the enemy team has 5 possible slots). Believe it or not, players you get paired have often the same skill as you, that's why you share the same MMR.
Hahaha wow, you're also one of those "chances of the enemy team having more feeders/trolls people". You then proceed to discredit your own statement by saying the people you get paired with often have the same skill as you.
I main mid, and most of the times I win my lane with no real problems. And you know what annoys me the most? The enemy team ALWAYS asking me to report their mid because he's "bad" or "troll". They aren't bad. I just played better than them. If I have to win, someone has to lose. And the worst part is that those times when I lose my lane I have my team asking to report me. Following the logic of people like you, we all are bad and we all have to be reported.
I never report people for doing badly. Now you're just making false accusations.
And let's not talk about every time someone blames other for apparently no reason, because if you die it's easier to blame your jungle, or your top, or your teacher, or your Pope, than it is to blame yourself and try to do it better next time.
Now you're just ranting. Nobody is talking about blaming anyone for no reason but you.
tl;dr: You are a jerk.
Wow, at least you didn't have to passively aggressively comment that one. Same to you, bud.
KaisadiIIa3 votesPfff... "passive aggressive comment" is an awkward concept. I describe a situation which I find stupid, if you deduce you are stupid because of it, then it's your problem. I never made "false accusations" since I never said you did everything I listed on my post.
The whole point around who goes top is that nobody can say which one "deserves" to go top, so we utilize pick order as a decisive factor.
Everything else is you just trying to justify insulting other people.
The Trent2 votesPfff... "passive aggressive comment" is an awkward concept. I describe a situation which I find stupid, if you deduce you are stupid because of it, then it's your problem. I never made "false accusations" since I never said you did everything I listed on my post.
The whole point around who goes top is that nobody can say which one "deserves" to go top, so we utilize pick order as a decisive factor.
Everything else is you just trying to justify insulting other people.
I feel you. People always think I'm trying to be "passive aggressive" just because I say something like "don't ward while they're pushing Sona unless it's behind us cus they'll dive me" and then she'll say "oops sorry didn't know you were stupid" after I said it. I wasn't trying to be passive aggressive I was just giving some tips.
bad arcade kitty1 votesI wasn't trying to be passive aggressive I was just giving some tips.
did anybody ask you for those tips? do you enjoy being given tips which suggest that you play wrongly
KaisadiIIa2 votesWhy shouldn't he? No one knows everything, so sharing knowledge is good. If you think he said something stupid, tell him you don't think that way, and, if you want, explain him why. There is no reason to be rude.
The Trent1 votesdid anybody ask you for those tips? do you enjoy being given tips which suggest that you play wrongly
Why would I not help them improve and help them win the game by giving tips. If that's how you think a person should play, never getting help from someone else, that's weird.
TheJuzzo1 votesYou are the kind of player that makes me want to be toxic.
Wow, you don't flame after losing 5 games straight? Congrats! Some people actually care about losing though. If you don't care about losing, then don't play ranked.
Nobody will let me have a lane because I called it? Oh boy, you're one of THOSE people. Guess what, this is a TEAM game, and that means if you are first pick, you should be listening to your team and figuring out where everyone wants to go. Not this attitude of "I'm first, I get whatever I want, screw anyone below me". This is not a team player attitude. This is an "every person for themselves" attitude.
It shouldn't be about PRIORITY. It should be about what helps the team overall. If you are a decent player, then you should be able to play multiple roles well. So if someone wants top and says they are a top main, and you want top but you could also mid just fine... then just GO MID. Don't take top from the guy just because you CAN. This immediately creates problems in the team and now instead of a united team of 5, you have 5 solo players who are only worried about their own situation... You get people who won't group, won't listen to anyone, will run from a fight they might have won because it might hurt their KDA... etc.
Is your top lane first pick SO important that you're willing to ruin any chance of teamwork your team might have had? Is it worth screwing over a teammate to where they are upset and stuck in a role they are bad at?
I know why, because when that person does badly you can call them a Bronze and blame them for your loss, and then tell them they need to be super proficient in all roles, even though you aren't.
So, uh, I care about losing, but am mature enough not to lose my shit and start bad mouthing folk when on a loss streak....Thats kid shit...well, kids and convicts. (Grow up)
As to "letting" someone have a lane...What if I main ADC and am first pick, you as last call "ADC"....I dont know you, I trust my skills over strangers. Not to mention, it seems that people that are pushy in champ select about their roll almost always do poorly at it. I would take my roll as first pick. You can have it when you are first pick. " If you are a decent player, then you should be able to play multiple roles well." ---This goes for you too, we all get first pick sometimes. (Grow up)
You can turn every sentence you wrote around and direct them at your self. Its like you are trying to argue from a position of the ground not being even....What? are you a top only player who sucks at every other roll? Why would you expect people to cater to you? Are you special? Why should you get your main roll, even if other people main that roll too? Are you the type of person who cuts in line? Did you take your mom seriously when she said you were the best little boy in the world? (All moms say that...Grow up)
TheBlackLuffy1 votesJust because you called something doesn't make it yours. It's that entitled attitude I hate most about the community. "Omg i called it" yeah well you don't have first pick so you get whats open.
Deal with it.
You're not going to get what you want when you play Ranked. It's best to go a champ you know and just play instead of getting all salty and thinking "I called first I get what I want". In Blind pick, pick what ever you want to pick. In Ranked matches, you pick what ever is open or what ever you know.
Some of us care about winning.
We do care about winning, we just do give in to people who throw temper tantrums over LoL. You win some you lose some.
Just because you didn't get the lane you want doesn't instantly throw off the game. That's an option you choose by your attitude and from what it looks like you seem to just be toxic.
You can still work as a team. 
Ice Cold Waz1 votesIt shouldn't be about PRIORITY. It should be about what helps the team overall. If you are a decent player, then you should be able to play multiple roles well. So if someone wants top and says they are a top main, and you want top but you could also mid just fine... then just GO MID. Don't take top from the guy just because you CAN. This immediately creates problems in the team and now instead of a united team of 5, you have 5 solo players who are only worried about their own situation... You get people who won't group, won't listen to anyone, will run from a fight they might have won because it might hurt their KDA... etc.
Your argument though doesn't include cases where there are two people in a queue who both are Top mains and both want to play top. And what if neither of them want to play other roles? Then by pick order the person higher in order should be able to pick Top.
Is your top lane first pick SO important that you're willing to ruin any chance of teamwork your team might have had? Is it worth screwing over a teammate to where they are upset and stuck in a role they are bad at?
I don't think it's screwing over a teammate unless they make fun of you for it and are a dick.
AFK Push1 votesNobody will let me have a lane because I called it? Oh boy, you're one of THOSE people. Guess what, this is a TEAM game, and that means if you are first pick, you should be listening to your team and figuring out where everyone wants to go. Not this attitude of "I'm first, I get whatever I want, screw anyone below me". This is not a team player attitude. This is an "every person for themselves" attitude.
This is the fill paradox. If you let someone else have your best role out of kindness, and they end up doing shitty; then you feel as if you would have been better off taking that role. Then there is taking a role forcing somebody to play something they aren't used to, making you feel as if you should have taken that role for them, because they do poorly. I do the latter more than the first, but unless I hear somebody explicitly say they can't support or jungle I'm going my main role, because that is where I'm best at; which consequently will help the team better.
OhOkYea1 votesif you are first pick, you should be listening to your team and figuring out where everyone wants to go
Wrong. You should be counter picking the enemy and taking the role that will best help your team counter what the enemy team has chosen so far. Just so happens that first pick doesn't know what most of the enemy team will be playing so it only makes sense for them to pick and play what they want.
Eraest973 votesHonestly the best thing to do if you are on a losing streak is to take a break from the game or ranked. It helps me out from breaking a keyboard lol.
Mecha MaIphite1 votesIf toxic players were not allowed to be first pick, they still have a decent if diminished chance of getting a lane they can play (unless they're a one-trick pony in which case they should just learn more champs). It does not stick them with the "worst role every game".
Tentacle Love2 votesI assume you mean because they also get to do the bans, right?
Monstar Energy2 voteshere's an idea... what if... riot BANNED toxic players instead of making us play with them? huh? huh? right?
Black Star 12992 votesHow about Toxic players should not be allowed to play the game...
BlazinHot62 votesI actually disagree with you but I think your reasoning is sound. I would prefer they get first pick to minimize their bitching. Personally, I prefer to get the later picks so there is less chance my pick gets countered or I am able to choose a counterpick. It sounds like you ran into someone very toxic that was trying to sabotage your game. Thats really unfortunate and those type of players need to be removed all-together.
Burgee1 votesYeah because making them last pick every game will stop them from trolling...
... you can't be serious.
TheJuzzo1 votesThey shouldn't be last pick either.
sir d wreck1 votesI'm not sure how well this would solve the problem; wouldn't they just troll pick at whatever their spot is anyways then? I have found first pick has the least amount of trolls because they get their lane and role. However, on the other side, people who are on the low end of the picking order sometimes have the tendency to do things like 'Mid or troll', etc.
Ryvaku1 votesAs a player with high sodium levels. I don't like first pick and prefer last pick.
warpenguin5551 votesI would troll then.
I absolutely hate 1st pick
Gunpoint1 votesAt least if their first pick you can submit and just pick around them. If they are last pick they will pick a champion most likley that your team did not need at all.
Mimy1 votesOne of the reasons I stopped playing draft a long time ago and moved to team builder.
The Trent1 votesMost toxic players are toxic after they start losing the game they play not while they're banning
IPatclhes1 votesBasically just think that their should be a rating system on your performance that factors in win streaks/cs/objectives of the previous game/s. you know like a elo system *wink *wink jk. more immediate elo system that rewards people with first pick for results.
OR YOU COULD JUST MAKE TEAM BUILDER RANKED RIOT!!!!!!!
A Miss Fortune1 votesWhen someone bans
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Blood Warrant1 votesMaybe they became toxic because they kept getting the shaft and forced to pick 4/5th...
