Clearly Shen and Janna are OP

evilswitchkix·Sep 2, 2015·1 votes·693 views

Let's debuff them.

Maybe it's time to just cut the champion pool in half rather that make meaningless updates.

6 Comments

LintheSep 2, 20151 votes

Janna is fine.. and will be fine after the slight nerf. It's no big deal.

But this DOES give me a chance to make a bigger point about balance.

It really DOES seem that Riot is on this huge hamster wheel of buffs and nerfs... champ nerfs. item buffs. so need more champ nerfs and buffs. And so on.

I get that it's not easy balancing 130? champs and however many items.. but holy mackerel some of the decisions they make.

Look at the jungle.

Sej used to be pick or ban almost every game. Now I don't remember the last time I saw a Sej pick. Mostly because of items and buffs to other items/champs. (And this seems to be a recurring theme. Even if a champ doesn't get a nerf, they often get left behind so relative to other champs they ARE nerfed. So then they have to get a buff.. and the hamster wheel turns.)

Gragas. Seems to me like he is in a pretty good place. Strong but not stupid. (Why hello Skarner!) So nerf Gragas.

And RekSai... NO WAY do I get this one. Just like Sej.. used to be pick or ban almost every game. Nerfed and left behind. I think I have seen ONE RekSai pick in the last month or so. Solution? Nerf her again of course.

joebobby1412Sep 2, 20151 votes

I mean, the Sej thing was a roller coaster for me. I used to play her before Cinderhulk. She had a pretty high winrate but still a super low pickrate. Then they were like "we are buffing tank junglers" and was like "NO they'll break Sej!" but they did it and then she got perma banned, followed by nerfs. Now I've been trying to get back into playing her, but she is definitely not what I would like her to be.

Other than breaking Sej and Gragas, Cinderhulk really did make the jungle a lot more of a varied place. As long as those 2 were banned everygame, it was great.

3TWarriorSep 2, 20151 votes

it did, but it also opened the path for sion the unkillable and of course the even worse, everything with devourer prospers

the only thing I like about the devourer update is that older, forgotten junglers can now be picked, yet the problem being, boom, they're completely overpowered, outdoing ADCs and assassins in damage off of purely auto attacks

joebobby1412Sep 2, 20151 votes

Oh I agree, everyone other than the guys who play it agree. Even some of them I'm pretty sure feel forced by how weak every other pick is.

Devourer is a fine concept that was either given way too little thought, or put out with the intention of throwing away the relatively balanced game we had before it. Which, I'm not saying Riot hates the community, I think it could have been more of a "Here's something we really want in the game, but we aren't sure how to fit it in with the way the game is now. Let's get it in and figure out finding it's place later."