Doran's Blade is receiving a buff so shouldn't Doran's Shield?

King Odin·Oct 29, 2015·61 votes·2,904 views

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Doran's Blade

Attack Damage increased from 7 to 8 Health increased from 70 to 80 Cost increased from 440 Gold to 450

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Dorans-Shield-Final-Icon.jpg Doran's Shield

Cost increased from 440 Gold to 450

Not to mention this http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Cull-Icon.jpg Cull [ New Starting Item ]

Cost: 450 Gold; Grants 5 Attack Damage and 3 life on-hit; Passive: Grants 1 Bonus Gold per Creep Score until 100 CS. At 100 CS, you gain 300 Bonus Gold and that passive is disabled afterward.

29 Comments

Big LincolnOct 29, 201522 votes

riot hates when tanks are allowed to exist at all, let alone lane decently

maikokkOct 30, 20151 votes

if you havnt noticed, tanks are being buffed behind the scenes... but most people dont consider masteries when they are thinking about items.

DontBanMeImDrunkOct 31, 20152 votes

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if you havnt noticed, tanks are being buffed behind the scenes... but most people dont consider masteries when they are thinking about items.

i havent, and im probably not going to unless you fill me in

Silents429Oct 30, 20152 votes

Everyone hates when tanks have strong early games.

IcyPepperOct 30, 20156 votes

Is there anytime a tank is allowed to be strong? o.O

Late-game ADC's are going to destroy them, and early game duelists in general will kick their butts.

Mid-game, I'm guessing?

Silents429Oct 30, 20152 votes

They aren't really suppose to be strong.

From my understanding they are meant to be durable CC machines, and they do that just fine.

Marksmen killing them late game seems perfectly reasonable given that's exactly what they are suppose to do, kill things.

Sir YamazukiOct 30, 20154 votes

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They aren't really suppose to be strong.

From my understanding they are meant to be durable CC machines, and they do that just fine.

Marksmen killing them late game seems perfectly reasonable given that's exactly what they are suppose to do, kill things.

Not all tanks are low damage cc threats. Some are reliant on their damage but have kits that allow them to build mostly tank items and still deal damage but have little to no hard cc.

Silents429Oct 30, 20151 votes

You aren't a tank if you aren't a CC threat, or at least a decent one, if you have no real CC you aren't a tank, you are just a bruiser or one of the Juggernauts, and bruisers are unhealthy for the game.

Hyrum GraffOct 31, 20152 votes

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You aren't a tank if you aren't a CC threat, or at least a decent one, if you have no real CC you aren't a tank, you are just a bruiser or one of the Juggernauts, and bruisers are unhealthy for the game.

Juggernauts are bruisers. Bruiser is kind of an umbrella term, and juggernauts are a subset.

Silents429Oct 31, 20151 votes

No Juggernauts are a slow immobile force of devestation, Bruisers are a mix of tank and offense.

Similar but the slow and immobile part is key here.

Bruisers need to be wiped from the game and that's why the fighter and Juggernaut items were made to split some of them apart.

Axis the DragonOct 31, 20152 votes

Ehh.

A Juggernaut is like Darius - zero mobility, but high defenses and stupid high damage.

A Bruiser would be like Renekton - decent mobility, high defenses and high damage.

The umbrella term for both of these would be "fighter", which is a really vague term anyhow, seeing as it also encapsulates melee carries

DontBanMeImDrunkOct 31, 20151 votes

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Ehh.

A Juggernaut is like Darius - zero mobility, but high defenses and stupid high damage.

A Bruiser would be like Renekton - decent mobility, high defenses and high damage.

The umbrella term for both of these would be "fighter", which is a really vague term anyhow, seeing as it also encapsulates melee carries

good post, kind of accurately describes the differences.

Merkel x TsiprasOct 30, 201514 votes

Riot a couple week ago

"We are gonna buff or rework Doran Shield in preseason"

Preseason uptade hit the PBE servers

Doran's Shield

Cost increased from 440 Gold to 450

Riot: Yeah we buff Doran shield we make it more expensive!

darkchan5Oct 30, 20152 votes

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Riot a couple week ago

"We are gonna buff or rework Doran Shield in preseason"

Preseason uptade hit the PBE servers

Doran's Shield

Cost increased from 440 Gold to 450

Riot: Yeah we buff Doran shield we make it more expensive!

wait where did they say they were buffing it? i though they said they thought it was in a good place right now...

Silents429Oct 30, 20151 votes

It's been 1 fucking PBE update my god people!

MudintheWaterOct 29, 20156 votes

I'm liking that Cull item. I'll probably get it as my first item as a mage now that I can't use spells in lane thanks to no mana.

OverpoweredSoapOct 30, 20152 votes

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I'm liking that Cull item. I'll probably get it as my first item as a mage now that I can't use spells in lane thanks to no mana.

Honestly, I didn't feel hurt that much by the mana pot removal when I played on the pbe.

I was playing Sona, Karma (mid), and Janna.

I didn't even build nomicon or athenes on Janna or Sona. My mana was fine throughout most of the game. I had a little trouble with it early, but other than that I was fine.

SpecterVonBarenOct 30, 20153 votes

D orans ring is also losing its flat regen for percent base so its gonna be worse too, and they're increasing the price of Athens.

KrittyOct 30, 20151 votes

But they're also increasing mana pools or regen for quite a few mana-reliant champions. So with one thing comes the change of another - they're trying to maintain a state of balance with the power mages provide in lane versus the amount of uptime that power has.

Silents429Oct 30, 20151 votes

They are buffing mana regen and mana pools for a lot of mages to compensate.

Captain AishiOct 30, 20156 votes

no, because shield is a defensive item, and defensive items are not allowed to be good in this game

SasogwaOct 30, 20154 votes

Every adc is getting +5 to +8 base AD "let's buff Doran's blade and nerf Doran's shield"

Yea sure...

IncognonymousOct 30, 20154 votes

Like this piece of shit wasn't already allowing infinite laning for ADCs. The more I hear about the preseason the more I think I'll pass on it.

RottedApplesOct 30, 20153 votes

dorans shield is already weak in nearly all situations.

now it's just pointless

Doctor DymentOct 30, 20152 votes

Because ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck you if you play a bruiser or a tank. Who even plays those roles anymore? The new meta is an entire team of ADC's.