@Riot, I know Winter ARURF is a one time thing, but what were you thinking?!

Spaceggs·Dec 22, 2017·7 votes·927 views

I saw in another post that a Riot Admin did say that they wanted to try something different this time and this is probably a one time thing depending on community feedback, **but what were they thinking? **

The map is awesome and the theme is cool but why reduce the champ pool by 60% (130+ champs in league total, only 60 in this mode) just so you can only have champs with winter/festive skins? Not only that, since the champ pool is limited, you tend to see super OP uber-carry champs more than you would like to see.

Uber carry/basically instant win -

2nd but still hard carry -

ADC's are a joke in this mode too and usually get instantly deleted by the above champs or any AP mage. Even tanks get nuked and usually just go full AP cuz its better to 2-shot your opponent then let them 2-shot you even tho you built full tank.

The random part does help a bit but I have played about 15 games and I already bored since I have seen the same champs hard carry over and over, the same adc's get farmed for kills, and when I get to the loading screen and see the other team with 3-4 of the above OP champs and I think, "Well...gg"

Either make it really ALL Random URF (not really ALL since its only 60 champs) or be normal URF with the players choosing bans. IIRC, they had old urf and after each week they would just remove certain champs that had super high win rates, I wouldnt mind if they just removed the top 5-10 champs each week with the highest wins to keep it balanced.

Long post I know but I never got bored of ARURF or URF, but I found myself getting bored with this Snowdown ARURF within a few days since its the same thing over and over. I do like the snowball btw to stop the old insane Teleports all over the map but why do they have wards die 2x faster? It just gets annoying re-warding and face checking a bush every 60 seconds.

17 Comments

PennsDec 22, 20173 votes

ADC's are a joke in this mode too

Sold :]

But then the dark harvest + duskblade + shiv Graves oneshots everyone :(

ModiDec 22, 20172 votes

You forgot Orianna. I have won games against several of those, often with multiple on the same team, as Orianna (on PBE, before it went live).

SpaceggsDec 22, 20172 votes

Orianna is strong but still gets instantly deleted by Malphite Jax Veigar

But yes Ori is very good, but I only put veigar above her since its super easy to farm up his Q on urf (easily getting hundreds of AP before 15 mins) and can make anyone on the other team disappear with one R. lol

Z3SleeperDec 22, 20172 votes

Tank Veigar is where its at. Build full tank, stack up your passive and have a no cooldown W and be unkillable with permastuns.

hhaavviikkDec 22, 20172 votes

veigar is insanely good, he goes full tank and gets 800 AP, can't touch it

SpaceggsDec 22, 20171 votes

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veigar is insanely good, he goes full tank and gets 800 AP, can't touch it

Wow, never thought of full tank veigar. lol I'll have to try that next time. This is the unique and interesting builds that makes urf awesome! Its just too bad this mode only has 60 champs :(

Dorans PantsDec 22, 20172 votes

but can´t you see how exciting and fresh this new mode is? no one knows what riot thinks at this point. they live in their own little bubble far apart from reality, where good is bad and vice versa, where dynamicque was a huge success, how else would you explain some of the stupid decision on features that are not even directly linked to their monetary gain.

some people just want to see their game burn I guess.

SpaceggsDec 22, 20171 votes

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but can´t you see how exciting and fresh this new mode is? no one knows what riot thinks at this point. they live in their own little bubble far apart from reality, where good is bad and vice versa, where dynamicque was a huge success, how else would you explain some of the stupid decision on features that are not even directly linked to their monetary gain.

some people just want to see their game burn I guess.

I dont blame them for trying something new, how else are you supposed to introduce unique modes? But usually you shouldn't TAKE-AWAY mass content like removing 76 champs from a game mode, or give no option summoner spells (tho i do like snowball), and a good chunk of the runes are worthless since you have max cdr, mana, and tenacity.

Would have been nice to be able to pick your summoners since some champs are just uncatchable w/o ghost or exhaust. Karma Janna Lulu and champs that can go over walls too.

GeminiRuneDec 22, 20171 votes

So that's what happens when you ban 76 Champions....the tier list gets modified! Who would've thought that?

AyzevDec 22, 20171 votes

Those bans weren't made for the sake of outing the dominant champions, the excluded ones simply don't have winter/snow/ice/Christmas related skins skins to go with for the Christmas event, so what's your point? And even if you actually have a point here, there's 11 champions with over a 55% winrate and 12 with less than 45%. When one out of three champions is this unbalanced, that point of yours is moot.

GeminiRuneDec 22, 20171 votes

Well of course. They gave it a theme this time around. My original post, while more or less ignorant, spoke out to the OP's remark of how the tiers are and what's so bs about them. Most every champ has had some kind of low key unstoppable matter about them and it just takes removing the right champions at a certain iteration to establish something of a tier. You could literally drop 50% of the roster with the highest win rates and there would still be some sort of broken tier.

My point would be moot if it ever mattered about winrates more than it did the Champion's kit or even a combination of both. But who are we to read Riot's handbook on that you know?

SpaceggsDec 22, 20171 votes

But these werent really 'bans', 76 champs arent in this mode only because they dont have a winter/festive skins, thats it.

I am just talking about the lack of variety of champs instead of seeing the same ones all the time.

SpaceggsDec 22, 20171 votes

Ya, i have seen some good graves too. But sustained dmg just doesnt cut it in URF, its all about burst and killing your enemy within 1.5 seconds.

I feel bad for adc's in this mode, sadly I feel like swain in the worst champ in this mode since he slow, low dmg and not really tanky.

AyzevDec 22, 20171 votes

Swain has a 55% winrate in URF, the 10th highest of all.

SpaceggsDec 22, 20171 votes