If assassin are to strong why not buff kayle

IllegalBagel·Jan 27, 2017·1 votes·822 views

I don't get it why nerf kha and rengar (I think kha has a lot of counter play i.m.o) when kayle is their ultimate counter

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dakota saturnJan 27, 20174 votes

Kayle already has a disgusting winrate in top lane. She just has low playrate.

21028037DEL1Jan 28, 20171 votes

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Kayle already has a disgusting winrate in top lane. She just has low playrate.

Kayle has a good win rate because only Kayle mains play her. That's not a good thing.

If you put a fed Kayle vs any fed assassin, the assassin wins. A fed Kayle vs a non-fed level-6 tank? The tank wins. Same goes for ADC. Just walk out of her range and she's donezo when you re-engage, especially if she has to blow her ultimate.

What she needs is some form of mobility to be relevant in a fight. Basically, make her permanently ranged (honestly, the entire E mechanic is completely outdated. Her melee attacks give her zero benefit). Nerf her max range slightly so she's not overbearing. Then, turn her E into a winged-dash (very short--about the range of Vayne's Tumble).

There, now she's mildly interesting to play.

dakota saturnJan 28, 20171 votes

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Kayle has a good win rate because only Kayle mains play her. That's not a good thing.

If you put a fed Kayle vs any fed assassin, the assassin wins. A fed Kayle vs a non-fed level-6 tank? The tank wins. Same goes for ADC. Just walk out of her range and she's donezo when you re-engage, especially if she has to blow her ultimate.

What she needs is some form of mobility to be relevant in a fight. Basically, make her permanently ranged (honestly, the entire E mechanic is completely outdated. Her melee attacks give her zero benefit). Nerf her max range slightly so she's not overbearing. Then, turn her E into a winged-dash (very short--about the range of Vayne's Tumble).

There, now she's mildly interesting to play.

No, Kayle has a high winrate because she's a very binary champion with zero room for counterplay and is a very low skillcap champion with high base numbers. It's very difficult to play her poorly - the only way you can possibly screw up is ulting at the wrong time. Compare that to actual high skillcap champions like Kat / Yasuo / Jhin / Vayne. They are squishy, and they have little options if caught out. If you press a wrong skill at the wrong time, you are dead, no questions asked. If you fuck up on Kayle, lawl R and walk away. You have to legit be way more skilled than the Kayle to actually have a chance vs her in lane. If you're on even ground skill-wise, you lose.

Kayle directly counters many meta top laners. Even if she fucks up and takes damage in lane she has a built in heal on demand that she doesn't have to do anything special to get. Irelia and Darius at least have to hit something to heal.

If you're forced to 'lawl just walk out of range' in the middle of a teamfight, thats time that the enemy team is doing damage and hitting you, when you're not fighting back.

If you end up blowing a valuable CD or summoner spell and Kayle just presses R and negates it, you just lost the teamfight.

DynikusJan 27, 20172 votes

because kayle doesn't need buffs. Rather than bring every champion up to the broken level of kha'zix and rengar, just bring kha'zix and rengar down to the level of everyone else.

Big LincolnJan 27, 20172 votes

because kayle would ruin the game if she became meta

Asayake 5150glowJan 27, 20171 votes

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because kayle would ruin the game if she became meta

She has, often, in the past.