Proposed Darius Counter Play

Tonay··1 votes·835 views

Darius is too linear to play and to play against.

I propose that if you stun him during his "Q" charge up it should be canceled / go on cool down for half its CD. Much like playing Yasuo where you can stop his "Q" mid cast by ccing him.

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MLDzXnRRR1 votes

He heals too much for no reason

Tonay1 votes

He makes any other melee tank that doesn't counter him useless. They just can't deal with his wave clear, his sustain, his CC, his tankiness, and his massive burst.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

He doesn't charge Q; it's a cast time.

Cast times are not interrupted by CC in this game.

Tonay1 votes

Riot should be able to make an exception in the code for Darius.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

You don't just make exceptions to general rules unnecessarily; it's poor game design.

You wouldn't suggest something as non-sensical as disabling Rengar's passive jump while he's silenced would you? Even though no other passive ability in the game is affected by Silence.

Tonay1 votes

So is linear opressive gameplay, why do you think they slowly removed silences? They made an exception in design for morganna black shield (MD only shield that blocks all CC) why not add counter-play to Darius other then having to pick Gnar , and Renekton.

As for your example with rengar, Rengar's passive jump doesn't have cast time. Neither is his jump completely oppressive, it is more the fact that he can now dump the double "Q" onto your face. If Rengar is flying towards you, you can stun him or knock him back to deny his jump or deny the damage that he pumps into you after the jump. Lo- and beyold, counter play.

Darius just deals massive AOE damage to anyone around him and heals for a shit ton of health. The only way to stop him is to focus him down and kill him, but that's a bad idea seeing as he builds full tank. Rengar is atleast squishy and you can burst him down.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

They removed silences from mobile assassins (Talon, Kassadin, Leblanc) since it prevented you from retaliating before they either retreated or instantly killed you. They haven't touch sliences on immobile champions such as Cho'gath, Malzahar, Soraka, and Fiddlesticks because silences are not an issue; silences on specific champions can be, but not the CC in general.

Morgana's Black Shield isn't an exception, it's an ability. It it's purpose is to block CC and provide a magic damage shield. The way you phrased it, every ability in the game is an exception since no two abilities function in exactly the same way.

As for your example with rengar, Rengar's passive jump doesn't have cast time. Neither is his jump completely oppressive, it is more the fact that he can now dump the double "Q" onto your face. If Rengar is flying towards you, you can stun him or knock him back to deny his jump or deny the damage that he pumps into you after the jump. Lo- and beyold, counter play.

You somehow completely missed the point of that example, which was that you wouldn't make a single exception (silence disabling Rengar's passive) to a general rule (passives are not affected by silence). That example had absolutely nothing to do with Rengar's balance or counterplay.

Pluie Battante1 votes

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Tonay1 votes

Well no, there is no cast time on Renekton's Q, its virtually instant. Darius on the otherhand (appears to) charge up his axe for a big swing. Players should be able to cancel that with CC.

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