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Reports for 'Negative Attitude'

jgarna143750·Jun 19, 2015·5 votes·1,069 views

I'm sure you've all seen this: Your playing a game, and trying your best, but your just not doing well. Someone on your team starts flaming you, and you mute/ignore them. Then, in the post-game screen, you get some warning for 'Negative Attitude'. Another scenario (this actually happened to me): I called jungle, and picked Amumu. Our top wants me to play Heimerdinger jungle, and I say no. If I get the role, it should be my choice as to what jungler I want to play. When we get in the match, our top, a Riven, goes 'Report Amumu for trolling and harassment'. What?!?! This isn't trolling, and neither is it harassment. I don't do so well this game, and another player on my team says to report for trolling and intentionally feeding. Then, what pops up in the post-game screen: 'You have been reported for a Negative Attitude' I proceed to get a chat restriction, all because I didn't want to play Heimerdinger jungle. This is insane. I think that before any punishment at all is issued (except LeaverBuster punishments, of course), the Riot staff should check out the reports. There are just too many angry players out there to have automatic punishment systems! And to make matters worse, people don't even report you for the right reasons. It's always 'Negative Attitude'. I'm sick and tired of players being punished for a lack of skill.

13 Comments

atomicwitJun 19, 20152 votes

You should leave some thoughts here. I've had a similar experience.

WillHealForHonorJun 20, 20152 votes

if u get reported for nothing.. nothing will happen fortunately

SwiftKitten88Jun 20, 20152 votes

i have only ever got ONE thing that told me i was reported. i don't even remember what it was for, all i know was it was so pathetically wrong just laughed at it.

3TWarriorJun 20, 20151 votes

lol, I once got a 5 match 5 minute wait because riot's servers disconnected me while I pressed the accept button XD

jgarna143750Jun 20, 20151 votes

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lol, I once got a 5 match 5 minute wait because riot's servers disconnected me while I pressed the accept button XD

While this is annoying, I do understand why it happens, and there's no way for the system to tell if you dodged or actually had connection problems, so unfortunately this can't be fixed.

Arcade AndrewJun 20, 20152 votes

this is why I dont play league anymore and just lurk the boards hoping riot will remove all chat and ranked restrictions including mine,

im never going to play them when I dont deserve them

jgarna143750Jun 20, 20151 votes

That's incorrect. There is an automatic punishment system that issues mild punishments (short suspensions, chat bans, etc.) based on amount of reports for amount of games played, which, by chance can actually be quite high if you get stuck with a snobby 4-man pre-made, or just an unlucky streak of salty, stubborn, and immature players.

jgarna143750Jun 20, 20151 votes

I'd really like to see a Red's view on this issue. There have been a lot of threads like this, but I haven't seen one Red post on this matter.

Baby GhoulJun 20, 20151 votes

If they wanted you to be Heimerdinger jungler over Amumu jungler, then you aren't the one without knowledge of the game, so keep doing what you're doing.

This happens a lot to me when I play normal games. A 4 party team joins my game, and they proceed to try to bully me into doing things I don't want to by threatening to all report me. It maybe forcing me to choose another lane that I got first, or getting upset when I don't answer every single one of their assist pings.

There should be a harsher punishment for people who abuse the report system in this way. People do this so much when they join games with their friends, and it should be stopped.

R110Jun 20, 20151 votes

The warning appears when you have been reported frequently but at that time the reports aren't validated yet. Sine you got a chat restriction I assume you probably had some long discussion with the people that told you to play Heimerdinger jungle. I have a feeling you have somewhat long defensive discussions with people which might annoy other people outside of the discussion to report both sides.

I can understand that these things can feel unfair especially on the defensive side but as a general rule to avoid these scenarios, you should ask the question "Should my teammates know what I'm about to type?". If yes, it's probably something related to the game, like grouping etc or something related to a joke that is going on in the chat or something funny that happened in game or it's gl hf or gg wp. If it's not and whatever you typed is related to argueing with some guy, just delete the message.

I think the Heimerdinger case could have been avoided by simply saying that you don't have that champion. If they saw you hovering over it, tell them you don't want to jungle with that champion, I will pick another jungler. Case closed don't respond to them anymore about the matter. They won't have a valid reason to report you anymore. They might report anyway, the report gets discarded as a false report, you don't get restrictions.

jgarna143750Jun 20, 20151 votes

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The warning appears when you have been reported frequently but at that time the reports aren't validated yet. Sine you got a chat restriction I assume you probably had some long discussion with the people that told you to play Heimerdinger jungle. I have a feeling you have somewhat long defensive discussions with people which might annoy other people outside of the discussion to report both sides.

I can understand that these things can feel unfair especially on the defensive side but as a general rule to avoid these scenarios, you should ask the question "Should my teammates know what I'm about to type?". If yes, it's probably something related to the game, like grouping etc or something related to a joke that is going on in the chat or something funny that happened in game or it's gl hf or gg wp. If it's not and whatever you typed is related to argueing with some guy, just delete the message.

I think the Heimerdinger case could have been avoided by simply saying that you don't have that champion. If they saw you hovering over it, tell them you don't want to jungle with that champion, I will pick another jungler. Case closed don't respond to them anymore about the matter. They won't have a valid reason to report you anymore. They might report anyway, the report gets discarded as a false report, you don't get restrictions.

When I had the Heimerdinger quarrel, I said four things in that game: Hello, jg, no, because heimerdinger jungle doesn't work I didn't know how to chat in-game at that time, just in champion selection. And now that I do know how to chat in-game, what am I to do when a player on my team is telling the other team to report me for trolling when I do bad (1/6/2 for example) and there are 2 "ok"s from the other team? I can't just leave it like that. I have to defend myself. I mean, the only time I respond to things like this is when someone is telling the other team to report me, which happens about 80% of the time when I'm doing bad, or don't do what someone on my team wants. The players flaming me for my lack of skill then goes on to report me for negative attitude, and usually fools one of the gullible members on the other team to report me too.. It seems that the only report warnings I get are for negative attitude, and that is insane. If your going to report someone, do it for the right thing. I've gotten a plethora of chat restrictions because I didn't play the jungler that someone wanted me to, and then got reported for negative attitude, or I didn't do so well, and got reported for negative attitude. That's bullshit. No other way to put it. How the hell are you supposed to get better at the game if your getting punished and harassed for a lack of skill, or valid, reasonable choices that you make?

R110Jun 20, 20151 votes

Do note that champion select and post game chat is reviewed by the automatic system. There is no need to defend yourself, if you didn't say anything at all when people threaten to report you. Just mute them if it's too much and ignore them (if you needed to mute them you should probably also report them, unless it's a pre-emptive mute at the start of the game). Asking other people to report someone is a reportable and punishable offence.

Basicly if you use chat to joke around (preferrably at the beginning of the game, no need to use 5 lines of chat every minute) or for strategic purposes you'll be fine even if there are people throwing reports for no valid reason.

Could you tell me how many messages you have available with a chat restriction? Also remember that chat ingame is an optional experience in the way of you use it or you don't use it, you can even /mute all. The game is perfectly playable using only pings as communication. Personally I use less than 5 messages in an average game.

jgarna143750Jun 20, 20151 votes

That's dumb. Just because I can ignore the chat and not communicate with my team doesn't mean I should be threatened with a chat restriction for not doing so. I've gotten 2 chat restrictions before I even knew how to use the in-game chat, one of them after my first PvP game, where, as stated above, I had only sent the four messages stated above, none of which any sane human should be offended or discouraged by. If I'm encountering one of these players every other game, the system obviously isn't working because I'm the one getting punished. This automatic punishment system seems more like a weapon than it does a tool. And, I think your a bit confused about the system: It doesn't review any of the chat logs, all it does is compare the ratio of reports to games. If I'm encountering a report-abusing player every game, even when I don't say stuff in chat, which I usually don't, except calling roles and objectives and stuff of course, that means that I'm getting a report every other game, for silly reasons like not giving my support blue, or having a KD ratio less than 1. There are sometimes even players who just report everybody in their game if they are upset. One time I went 17/7/9 as Yorick, not saying a word at all that game, and in the post-game chat, the enemy top laner says: 'yoric noob' and whadd'you know: That notorious old 'Negative Attitude' warning. Which has yet again, given me another chat restriction. I mean, am I just unlucky, or is there something that I'm doing wrong?

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