Why so much hate towards Zoe?

PandaPo·10/30/2018, 10:51:21 AM·9 votes·4,098 views

SO, Zoe a burst mage, who can burst someone with about equal range as Lux and even though they are both burst mages who do the same thing. Zoe is so much hated. WHY? Lux can kill 3 people at once. Her damage was gutted. WHY? Please, if this happens, then Riot has to either rework one of her abilities to give her more burst potential or her damage has to be improved. Why? I feel like even with her full combo, she still cant one shot someone the way she could kill champions with one q. I don't get it. I mean her q was so hard to hit. She was so hard to play but had a high reward play style.

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WoΘxer10/30/2018, 10:57:08 AM13 votes

This champ shouldnt even exist

Basically old Nidalee just 2 times worse.

SEKAI10/30/2018, 11:01:58 AM13 votes

Because, especially in her pre-tripleGut stage, she could 1shot people from passive AA on-hit alone. She could miss every spell and still 1shot people.

She has not 1, not 2, but THREE abilities that are either overtuned, impossible to balance, or both due to their design, especially when they are combined and used together. W is basicaly Kleptomancy on 10 steroids; the Q is old Nid's Q on steroid especially when used with her "ultimate" that has nonexistent CD; and E is the most disgustingly overloaded spell in the entire game and on a basic ability slot, especially the kind of utter madness it was when it was first released where it was basically 2 ulties on a basic ability that could also refreshes ON HIT (not even have the decency of on-kill, no, ON HIT. What the?).

She also has a very weird power budgeting, it's almost as if they basically took and power budget of ulti and simply distribute it in her normal spells; and pretend as if because ulti has low budget it means the normal spells can be overpowered as fuck. Mate, that's not how the game works, why is this design even green-lit? And worse, not only is the power budget of ulti spread across the normal spell, what they actually went for is that each single normal spell has at the very least, the power budget of an ulti (as mentioned, something like E used to have at least the power budget of 2 ulties).

Ofc she's going to be hated. She is easily the most broken champion released in the entirety of League's history and probably ever will until CertainlyT flexes his """"creativity"""" again; released as being both massively overtuned as well as having the most amount of clearly unbalanceable design issues.

lolipopevelynn10/30/2018, 12:15:23 PM5 votes

Ppl keep comparing her to old nid, but they forget it wasnt just her spear alone that made her broken. It was spear combined with heal combined with her movespeed in cougar combined with her spam hops that could go over walls making it IMPOSSIBLE to ever catch and kill her. Her heal was insane btw. About as strong as pre rework raka if not stronger, making it easy for her to go support while still chunking hp. Did i mentioned she had a free ardent since her heals also gave her AS?

Zoe needs conditions and rng. She can also be camped because of those conditions. nid needed none of that and it was impossible to camp or gank her if the player had any kind of brain. So pls stop comparing the two. Their Q were the same, but thats it.

Myren Quiddle10/30/2018, 10:57:54 AM3 votes

What annoys me the most about Zoe is her W. If you flash, she just flashes after you. If you heal, she'll just heal for free. Etc.