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What did i do wrong this game?

hsumis1ove··1 votes·310 views

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2159206540/229173500?tab=overview

i think i did everything right. good cs and all. how did we lose? bad team comp? and when has lucian been able to outburst tristana? I know the baron throw was part of it. But did the 1.5 k gold from baron really put them that far ahead of us? Also how does a darius lose to a mordekaiser??? Mordekaiser has the worst win rate right now.

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6 Comments

Lovely Pants1 votes

Can't really say what you specifically did wrong from a snapshot, but:

-purple team has a gold advantage through most of the early game, meaning you had little momentum during this period -Lucian can absolutely outburst Tristana in the right situation for a long while now -Mordekaiser has almost 100 cs on Darius, which leads me to think he was doing his job split pushing and murdering objectives. Relative winrate doesn't mean much to a murder king who your team can't stop farming all day.

-Emphatically, yes. Throwing a baron fight late game should pretty much lose you the game. The gold is largely irrelevant at that point compared to the buff and the fact that they had time to gain ground while you were all dead.

hsumis1ove1 votes

ok. But still shoudlnt darius be able to easily 1v 1 morde at like lvl 4 or in the early game?

JRobin311 votes

I don't think level 4 matters all that much 34 minutes into the game when you give up Baron, and their ridiculously fed bot lane duo rolls over your team. You clearly didn't realize that Lucian was two levels higher and more items when he "outburst" you.

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

Their baron power play was huge. It wasn't 1.5k. When they picked it up they were roughly ahead 3.7k. By the end of their buff they were up 7.9k.

I could see Mordekaiser beating Darius. Darius is all about melee forming into somebody and that's where Mord excels. His shields can cut out Darius' bleed and that third Q is going to destroy Darius.

Lucian had a 100% crit and 40% CDR build with a item 3072...that dude was just lifestealing faster than you could kill him that's why he won trades.

I'm not sure how the game went down but to me it looks like your team's win condition was to stack dragons and siege with Darius Bard JarvanIV zoning and Morgana peeling for you while you ripped through towers...which i assume didn't happen.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume there was a lot of 5v5 brawls which they just had a better comp for. With Lux being the only one even remotely threatened by JarvanIV he was basically useless. LeeSin Kassadin Lucian can all just hop out of his ult and Mordekaiser WANTS you to lock yourself in there with him.

You probably should've just said screw it and started split pushing for towers while your team was playing TDM with them. Tristana can take a tower in seconds if left alone. You would've forced some people on their team to come for you, at that point your team gets a numbers advantage.

Also at 40 mins you're gonna want to aim for 350 cs at least. Really good farming is about 10 cs per minute.

hsumis1ove1 votes

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Their baron power play was huge. It wasn't 1.5k. When they picked it up they were roughly ahead 3.7k. By the end of their buff they were up 7.9k.

I could see Mordekaiser beating Darius. Darius is all about melee forming into somebody and that's where Mord excels. His shields can cut out Darius' bleed and that third Q is going to destroy Darius.

Lucian had a 100% crit and 40% CDR build with a item 3072...that dude was just lifestealing faster than you could kill him that's why he won trades.

I'm not sure how the game went down but to me it looks like your team's win condition was to stack dragons and siege with Darius Bard JarvanIV zoning and Morgana peeling for you while you ripped through towers...which i assume didn't happen.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume there was a lot of 5v5 brawls which they just had a better comp for. With Lux being the only one even remotely threatened by JarvanIV he was basically useless. LeeSin Kassadin Lucian can all just hop out of his ult and Mordekaiser WANTS you to lock yourself in there with him.

You probably should've just said screw it and started split pushing for towers while your team was playing TDM with them. Tristana can take a tower in seconds if left alone. You would've forced some people on their team to come for you, at that point your team gets a numbers advantage.

Also at 40 mins you're gonna want to aim for 350 cs at least. Really good farming is about 10 cs per minute.

ok. Bard got caught about 6 times by lux combo. J 4 went in and got one shot. Darius couldnt catch anyone. Morg didnt seem to be catching anyone out. I can't splitpush like that in siilver because my team woudl just rage at me for abandoning them and someone get caught (probably by lux). Should i be getting 10 cs per minut ein th early game too?

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

10 cs per minute is what you want to aim for early game. Forget trading with the enemy laner, forget trying to kill them. If you can get 100 cs at the 10 minute mark that is going to take you places. I used to be a ride or die bot lane main (ADC or Supp) until i realized that it's really hard to carry games that way. As the top/mid/jg you can easily split push and pressure the map with champions like Nasus Udyr Zed, drawing enemy champions towards you. Now a heavily farmed Nasus Udyr Zed is easily going to be able to 1v1 anyone their team sends for you...meaning they'll have to send two or more. Your team isn't going to rage at you when you keep setting up easy 4v3 fights for them to win.

On the ADC it's a little trickier to leave your team to 4v5 since you're the main source of damage for the team. I've found top lane is actually really easy to carry from right now. item 3068 is pretty strong at the moment and lets you push waves quickly. Tossing a item 3748 gives you even more waveclear. You can pressure the map so hard it'll draw at least 2 to the top lane. You can make your entire team's game easier by not even leaving your lane.

I highly recommend checking out trick2g's stuff on youtube and twitch. He doesn't just have tips for how to play udyr. The man will teach you to be a split push god and really just understand how to control the game. How to play the game instead of letting the game play you.

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