nasus W is still the most broken slow in the game

legionnaire99·Nov 23, 2016·7 votes·3,874 views

and it lowers you attack speed also point and click with medium range last 6 sec on a 6.6 sec cooldown? also if you don't think so name one that better then his

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crzymdscntstNov 23, 20164 votes

Zilean TIME WARP Slows an enemy by 40/55/70/85/99% for 2.5 seconds. Cooldown 15 seconds. 45% cooldown = 8.25 seconds. REWIND: -10 seconds to all cooldowns Cooldown 14/12/10/8/6 45% cooldown (rank 5) = 3.3 seconds

Downtime on slow: 0.8 seconds. 99% slow. Downtime 0.8 seconds. Most oppressive slow is Nasus.

Zilean Oh ho ho Oh ha ha Oh ho ho Oh ha ha

legionnaire99Nov 23, 20161 votes

Can I still autoattack?

crzymdscntstNov 23, 20161 votes

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Can I still autoattack?

I mean to be fair, you can do pretty much anything but move, but it's Zillean, so if you're not moving, he's landing timebombs hopefully and timebombs chained mean stuns.

And even if you auto him enough, his ultimate.

Also to be fair, I haven't seen one that has been as good as his kit should allow, but mechanically, it's there.

In other news: item 3009

MLDzXnRRRNov 23, 20161 votes

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I mean to be fair, you can do pretty much anything but move, but it's Zillean, so if you're not moving, he's landing timebombs hopefully and timebombs chained mean stuns.

And even if you auto him enough, his ultimate.

Also to be fair, I haven't seen one that has been as good as his kit should allow, but mechanically, it's there.

In other news:

All the scripters with aimbot playing Zilean are disgusting...

WoonStruckNov 23, 20161 votes

Meanwhile the last one you went against you were a low mobility ADC and did absolutely fine.

Problem where?

Also, Zilean.

legionnaire99Nov 23, 20161 votes

no it wasn't it wasn't even me it was someone i wanted to show the game to. but when i see his 1.0 attack speed is now .4 and his speed is 355 to 100 that kinda of broken for anyone who isn't Kassadin Darius

ItsOrvalNov 23, 20161 votes

Cassiopeia Malphite Kayle Kassadin Olaf Tryndamere

Never heard someone complain about anything on Nasus being op. Maybe git gud?

Not to mention, any champ that buys item 3116 or item 3022 gives you a perma slow almost.

TheSequelsRBadNov 23, 20162 votes

Did you really just include malph in a list of Nasus counters?

The rest I can get, but as Nasus I can just ignore Malphite all game and just stack while he tries to hurt me through my lifesteal.

EndlessSorcererNov 23, 20161 votes

I've actually had significant success as Malphite against Nasus before. That said, I have only used this against Q-max Nasus rather than E-max Nasus.

Sunfire Cape and Iceborn Gauntlet make you far too durable to kill and provide enough sustained damage (combined with Battering Blows) to fight him off minions. Malphite's passive is rather useful for absorbing any return damage dealt early-game too.

Nasus can't really itemize percentage armor penetration and can have trouble dealing with tanks as a result.

TheSequelsRBadNov 23, 20161 votes

I don't know, I main q max Nasus and I generally find that I can just ignore malph early b4 he gets his powerspike, getting me really high stack numbers to win out early game really hard.

Maybe I have just played against bad malphites or something, but I almost always win the match-up.

EndlessSorcererNov 23, 20161 votes

It could be. If you want to play that match-up, you have to take proper advantage of Malphite's shield, CS rather well to hit your power-spikes early-game and control the minion wave properly.

I found many opponents in Silver and Gold wouldn't control the minion wave when I was playing as Nasus. In most games, I just tricked my opponents into pushing and setup a freeze outside my tower; I could basically just free-farm safely in many matchups while my opponents were overextended.

ItsOrvalNov 23, 20161 votes

OP said

and it lowers you attack speed also point and click with medium range last 6 sec on a 6.6 sec cooldown? also if you don't think so name one that better then his

Cass's slow is better than Nasus because of the AOE Malph's slow is point & click and does good damage along with a slow and low cooldown Kayle's Q has low cooldown and deal big damage Kassadin's slow... do I even have to explain this one Olaf's slow is infinite, all he has to do is hit you, and pick up his axe. Trynd just has to wait for backs to be turned to slow everyone.

So to answer your question,

Did you really just include malph in a list of Nasus counters?

No I did not say Malph counters Nasus. That has nothing to do with op's topic. If I was to pick champs that counter Nasus, itd be Riven Teemo Darius Fiora Kennen Renekton Swain Teemo Vladimir and tons more. Nasus is easy to counter unless youre playing a melee champ with no cc.

MR KIMCHI SENPAINov 23, 20161 votes

quite abusive in lower elo.

Play as support and on every gank use W for a free kill. Stack Q with targon E for spellthief proc

Shuyin178Nov 23, 20161 votes

You can't have Targon and Spellthief at the same time.... wtf troll post?

MR KIMCHI SENPAINov 26, 20161 votes

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You can't have Targon and Spellthief at the same time.... wtf troll post?

just make one you tool

Final Spark LuxNov 23, 20161 votes

Lux Lux E. While it might not technically be as good as nasus or zilean slows, it's still better because it's on Lux :)

Unstoppable MonkNov 23, 20161 votes

Stormraiders Surge don't care.

DunkinNoobsNov 23, 20161 votes

I remember when the AS slow portion of wither scaled up to 90% as well. Bad times man. Bad times.

Shuyin178Nov 23, 20161 votes

His duration just needs lowered by about 2 seconds. Late game Nasus is ridiculous because he can Q you twice before his slow breaks killing you (or very close to) if you're a squishy champion. Granted Zilean's slow is more potent, but at the same time his slow's reason for life is to land his bombs to actually do anything (lets be honest, Zilean's bombs are garbage otherwise). With Nasus however, he Q's once, procts Stormraiders (if you have it), then can permanently keep up with you until you die. Something people do tend to forget though, there is a MS slow cap. Zilean's 99% slow is not actually 99%, in-game functionality it's actually closer to around an 80% slow. While I don't know the exact math behind it off the top of my head (Vandril is a god at this stuff, so check out his youtube where he looked at slow caps), Zilean's slow and Nasus' slows in-game are actually much closer to each other than you'd think if you are the kind of person that only looks at tooltips with your arguments.

agbudarNov 23, 20161 votes

Garen Q removes it Evelynn W removes it Gangplank W removes it DrMundo if W is active while he casts it the duration gets reduced Morgana E ignores it Alistar R removes it Olaf R removes it MasterYi R ignores it also there is such a thing as item 3111 which quite frankly are not a bad pick for most champs EVEN adc it reduces the duration of wither by 30% and this is better then you think because it means that you will never get to the nearly standing still part of the spell.