Ok so s6 has started.(Almost). And i Just hit level 30.(so that's good). And through my travels in summoner's rift, I was always struggling on my jungling. I only play zac
and eve
jungle, and I am not satisfied with them. I want an assasin jungler, that won't get killed too easily, and is viable in this season. I've tried Lee Sin
and 
, and not very satisfied with them. I want a high damage snowbally carry type jungler. PLease help. Ty
Dreadlocks1 votes 
Might be up your ally (Yes i saw you're not satisfied with eve, but perhaps you're just building her optimally)
CostoChickenBake1 votesI've tried all of those except nid. Is she good? And also, how is elise? people say she is a strong champ, but weak in the meta.
Dreadlocks1 votesNidalee is SUPER strong early game (strongest in the game imo for jungle) but falls off pretty hard late game even if you were way ahead. And Elise is pretty good, shes kind of under the radar for nerfs (next patch shes getting a few) She's not "as" assassin like, but she can def have those qualities if you get fed and go full AP.
jaymc11301 votesI've tried all of those except nid. Is she good? And also, how is elise? people say she is a strong champ, but weak in the meta.
Elise is about as strong in the meta as its possible to be. She's a fairly complex champion though. Easily the best of the viable junglers along with Lee Sin in competitive terms. Nidalee is a very risky champion as a jungler that tends to be a bad pick for the role outside of coordinated team 5 games as it pigeonholes the team into a particular brand and style of siege play since a role that usually is covered by a tanky champ with disruptive cc and/or hard engage ability is something Nid can't be.
jaymc11301 votesEve is op mate. Take it from a diamond player who picked her up last season to one trick for funsies. It can take a lot of work to play her at an optimal level and to make the best use of her requires a very high level of strategic game knowledge and in game sense and awareness, but she's in a very strong spot on these patches. Easily in the top tier of junglers and trailing pretty much only Lee Sin and Elise in God Tier.
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Fun stuff. I recommend you stick with her. She's all the things you say you are looking for and is very versatile in build terms, able to be bruiser, tank, straight assassin, AP and AD.
No flash no life1 votes
. Land e q and squishy's gonna die.
legionnaire991 votes
"I want a high damage snowbally carry type jungler" he is most likey the best early game jg when it comes to bursting
jaymc11301 votes
Not even close.
But he can be pretty nasty when he does get rolling. His global presence is tough to match with any one who isn't Rek Sai, and global presence lets you make a strong impact all over the map, certainly good for carrying.
legionnaire991 votesNot even close.
But he can be pretty nasty when he does get rolling. His global presence is tough to match with any one who isn't Rek Sai, and global presence lets you make a strong impact all over the map, certainly good for carrying.
yes play him he hut like a truck early and he not a snowballer like 
btut he a close 2ed
jaymc11301 votesyes play him he hut like a truck early and he not a snowballer like
Hes a fine snowballer type of champ, but his early game burst is nowhere near the level of things like: 
. His ability to gank also isn't on par with the top tier type champs like: 
. He can be a fine jungler, but he's still not God Tier or even Top Tier quality at the role.
legionnaire991 votesHes a fine snowballer type of champ, but his early game burst is nowhere near the level of things like:
he snowballs harder then lee and ellis and he has point and click stun he is up there maybe not god but 1st
jaymc11301 voteshe snowballs harder then lee and ellis and he has point and click stun he is up there maybe not god but 1st
Well the numbers sure don't support that argument and my personal experience in the top 1% of the playerbase also don't support it. You can certainly make the case for him being a capable jungler, a quality snowball starter, and fairly forgiving champion with durability, damage, and utility built in. But its pretty clear what limits him compared to a lot of the best junglers also. His gap closer is point and click and tied to his stun, which makes him far less of a mobile champion than a lot of these other picks. His early game is terrific clear wise, but well the level of the listed junglers in terms of gank ability for various reasons. His damage out put is solid, but the DPS is not very high and his burst is also mediocre at best.
Don't get me wrong, panth can be a fine jungle pick, particularly given what the OP said hes looking for as he certainly fits the bill. But that's not the same as saying he is the best option available since he is outclassed in a number of ways by a lot of other champs.
legionnaire991 votesWell the numbers sure don't support that argument and my personal experience in the top 1% of the playerbase also don't support it. You can certainly make the case for him being a capable jungler, a quality snowball starter, and fairly forgiving champion with durability, damage, and utility built in. But its pretty clear what limits him compared to a lot of the best junglers also. His gap closer is point and click and tied to his stun, which makes him far less of a mobile champion than a lot of these other picks. His early game is terrific clear wise, but well the level of the listed junglers in terms of gank ability for various reasons. His damage out put is solid, but the DPS is not very high and his burst is also mediocre at best.
Don't get me wrong, panth can be a fine jungle pick, particularly given what the OP said hes looking for as he certainly fits the bill. But that's not the same as saying he is the best option available since he is outclassed in a number of ways by a lot of other champs.
yea but there isn't one jg with out a weakness or even one champ for that matter
Erockandroll1 votesJunglers themselves don't really snowball. That's do to the fact that Jungle farm isn't as fast or as reliable than lane farm. But if you want to get your lane's snowballing, all you need is a really good ganker.
Assassin, and won't get killed too easily, are kinda opposite from each other, as most assassins are glass cannons. The assassins that do stay healthy in the Jungle usually have strong sustain mechanics, Like Nid, Rengar, even Kha'zix, but that pushes them closer to the realm of a light fighter.
Personally, I go for Bruisers, Since the slightly extra tankyness, makes them a lot less finicky than an Assassin. Have you tried J4?
CostoChickenBake1 votesI haven't tried J4 and I might just try him. Thanks.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
No flash no life1 votesJunglers themselves don't really snowball. >
That I agree, but we also need to acknowledge that some junglars want to be the important carry instead of letting the team snowball - which is understandable if it's like a plat I junglar playing with four bronze V teammates in a normal match.
And ya, I somewhat thought of pantheon because of his strong early games. Even putting aside that he doesnt suit my playstyle, his gap closer range is short, he has no mobility, and even if he's fed in most situations he's only going to land q w e, where only e hits multiple target. In other words, it's going to prove challenging for a fed panth to 1v5. I favor j4 for longer gap closer&mobility, burst dmg that is stronger than panth at lvl 2 if u count in passive and extra attack speed, capable of doing massive dmg to several targets, and ult that remains impactful throughout the game. Downside is that j4 is skillshot based while panth is click and kill, so if you have shaky fingers like me then...
Bhagswag1 votesDiana
