Can soraka get a stacking passive?

Siegfriedx1·Feb 17, 2018·1 votes·290 views

Could be %mana regen everytime she lands a Starcall, so she could have a power spike with unholy grail or mikael. Anything to make her more meaningful?

8 Comments

bwopFeb 17, 20181 votes

no, no thanks.

Siegfriedx1Feb 17, 20181 votes

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no, no thanks.

She is really in a bad spot right now and there is no way to tell a good from a bad soraka on this season. I'm just trying to find a way so a good soraka, that do good in lane, will be more meaningful, while a bad soraka would be the same

Leaf on BushFeb 17, 20182 votes

A good Soraka will magically confuse their opponents to not buy grievous wounds.

Siegfriedx1Feb 17, 20181 votes

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A good Soraka will magically confuse their opponents to not buy grievous wounds.

You made me laugh. Thank you. It's just how i feel Riot want me to play soraka right now.

Leaf on BushFeb 19, 20181 votes

Here are a few more comments from Soraka mains about how to deal with grievous wounds or executioners calling.

You don’t counter Executioners It counters you.

You don’t. Once the enemy buys grievous wounds , you can just walk away from your pc and stare at trees or something.

If the enemy team gets grievous wounds, your best bet is to play AFK

YOU CAN NOT. Riot fucked up. Period.

Use the time where you realise your heals don’t work anymore to contemplate your life, ask yourself “how did I get to this part of my life?” “Is this really worth it?”

You curl into a ball and cry.

Is this something that only high elo players are having to deal with? I am in silver and I don't really...see the issue.

You either faceroll the enemy or get facerolled by the nami that buys executioner on first back.

I have always believed that with good enough skill and adaptation one could overcome any nerfs or "unfair" champions, but current state Grievous Wounds is just beyond me."

drink a nice cup o'bleach to drink my sorrows away due to me not being able to do anything about it

bwopFeb 18, 20181 votes

I'm saying that, because I believe giving a champion with a 50.11% win rate a stacking passive will actually make them OP...

Siegfriedx1Feb 18, 20181 votes

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I'm saying that, because I believe giving a champion with a 50.11% win rate a stacking passive will actually make them OP...

50.11% where? In what condition? In what exactly level of gameplay?

Most Frequent Completed Build 42.95% Win Rate | 4901 Games

Most Frequent Starters 48.25% Win Rate | 24972 Games

You can't use general averages of win rate to measure how well a champion is. You have to take into account that good players always try to pick their champions in team match ups that they have advantage on, so their win rate sometimes is ok to be above 50%.

Also statistics become less valuable once you experience the problems yourself [what i did and do everyday]. Soraka struggles a lot to win some match ups on bot side because now harass can be totally nullified with Overheal+lifesteal, doran shield, relic shield, flet foot work and some other stuff.

If you wanna take in consideration average win rates, what the fuck is that suppose to be?

Janna

Most Frequent Starters 54.63% Win Rate | 76623 Games

Soraka struggle even more and harder as soon as we enter mid game where all damage is so insanely high that you just can't save people even when you are very strong.

On top of that, Soraka was originally designed to be a high risk high reward support that would benefit from fights that happen slow/without too much immediate burst damage. This season all risks became way higher to the point no professional player want to try anything or engage in any fight because damage and risks are too high what hurt Soraka very much as she stay the same as before and the rewards for soraka didn't increase not nearly as much for her.

Today I can't see one single reason to pick Soraka if you can pick Janna. It's like Soraka is stuck in a bad design position where good sorakas that do 200% more than average are as good as shit and any janna that press 2 buttons can do more than her in the end.

Do you think that I'm a bad player? Every single season since seaons 3 i hit high diamond at least once playing soraka because after so many games you just become good with dealing with your counters and going for your winning condition. Well this season I have a 46% win rate and im plat 4. I know that if i play janna i will climb but is that ok? Is that what I seek when i play league? I have a main champion!

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/br/796297/%20Siegfriedx1#/profile

than this after i change to NA. There is a bug saying i finished gold on season 6 due to my account changing server, but that never happened.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/76019150/Siegfriedx1#/profile

From all seasons that I main Soraka, i never had such a terrible experience than in this one. I can't guarantee i'm going to win my lane and i'm sure i will be useless mid-game/late-game.

I understand that most people don't play this champion but I only wanted Soraka to feel better on the hands of people that play her well. Right now I feel like shit even when I do everything right and that is what hurt me more. :[[[[[

Leaf on BushFeb 19, 20181 votes

It's a mistake to ask for buffs. Soraka is in a state where buffs or nerfs don't even matter in terms gameplay quality and how much a player can impact games. They are keeping the winrate at a level that looks balanced, so no simple buffs no simple nerfs needed.

In reality you have variations of 2 kinds of outcomes when you play Soraka:

Your opponents don't buy grievous wounds and you just stomp more or less by default.
Your opponents buy grievous wounds and you can no longer influence the match as other supports can.

You'd have to be exceptionally bad to reliably lose in case of 1. or exceptionally good to reliably win in case of 2.

So when you say that Soraka isn't meaningful, I agree. But she isn't simply in a "weak spot". There are issues that winrates can't show you. So instead of asking for random buffs why don't you take a few steps back and adress it directly?