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BRING BACK HUNTERS POTION!

KatsumotoOsaka··25 votes·9,599 views

So, Hunters potion got removed today and I hate it. Almost rage quit my game today when i found out mid game. If you also want hunters potion back please make this a big thread and post a reply and give it attention!

I love hunters potion, Almost every game it is saving my ass with that last few points of mana i need to use a skill or the amount of times i got away from ignite because of the potion, or won a fight with 100 or less hp because of that potion, or how many times i'd jungle, get a potion stack and between smite/ lifesteal and potion be back in fighting shape to save the day!

And when i read the patch notes for why it got deleted?

"Hunter's Potion is an underpowered and seldom-picked option for players. We're removing it from the game as we don't feel it’s necessary in the current jungle."

Removed because it was seldom picked. WELL IN LOW ELO IT IS PICKED ALL THE TIME! Seems like another decision made because of how items are used at high elo of play but us guys at the bottom like to be catered too as well.
So put it back, now! Pretty please!

Consider me and my wallet on strike till you put it back, no more purchases without a hunters potion!

59 Comments

SpaceRazzerKappa6 votes

Riot cant tell the defference betwen "keeping the game fresh with updates" and "lets throw a cat in the bag and see what happens"

Soul Dealer6 votes

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Riot cant tell the defference betwen "keeping the game fresh with updates" and "lets throw a cat in the bag and see what happens"

Well this was a good change tbh. Everyone I know that plays the game was perfectly fine with hunters potion being removed because it was never used. It’s a bad item with no value.

SpaceRazzerKappa5 votes

No it was used and Riot shouldn't be making many shop changes when there is a Riven 1v5 with deaths dance and maaaany other broken stuff they ignore

Soul Dealer5 votes

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No it was used and Riot shouldn't be making many shop changes when there is a Riven 1v5 with deaths dance and maaaany other broken stuff they ignore

Why do you people ignore facts? It WASNT used ever. I have played this game since season 5 and have seen it used maybe twice. Removing an item that is not used is a good change.

Sona Ping7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EAJ7UIKe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-02T00:32:01.507+0000)

Well this was a good change tbh. Everyone I know that plays the game was perfectly fine with hunters potion being removed because it was never used. It’s a bad item with no value.

[{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EAJ7UIKe,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-02T00:36:57.220+0000)

Why do you people ignore facts? It WASNT used ever. I have played this game since season 5 and have seen it used maybe twice. Removing an item that is not used is a good change.

"Everyone I know is fine with its removal because it was never used."

∗∗passerby stops∗∗ "I used it."

"Why do you people ignore facts? It WASNT used ever."

Ninjas Flossing6 votes

i used it on every single jungler i play. i;ve seen it used quite often. you saying it isn't ever used is just a flat out lie. you are wrong, sir. keep your ignorance to yourself.

Soul Dealer2 votes

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i used it on every single jungler i play. i;ve seen it used quite often. you saying it isn't ever used is just a flat out lie. you are wrong, sir. keep your ignorance to yourself.

Right I’m lying. After 4 years of playing I know what items are bought and what items are not. Your either lying about buying it or lying about people using it because statistically it’s one of the least used items in the game and numbers don’t lie. Keep trying to lie to get it out back in the game it won’t happen.

Ninjas Flossing6 votes

you made a statement saying that no one used it ever. that is unsupported by any data anywhere. period. even if it IS a seriously underused item it still saw substantially more use than a good chunk of other items in league. id put money on the bet that item 3056 item 2065 item 3512 combined have less people using it than hunters pot ever did. and those aren't even temporary items. people used hunters potion. if no one used it than NO ONE WOULD BE ON THE BOARDS ASKING FOR IT BACK!

Soul Dealer4 votes

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you made a statement saying that no one used it ever. that is unsupported by any data anywhere. period. even if it IS a seriously underused item it still saw substantially more use than a good chunk of other items in league. id put money on the bet that item 3056 item 2065 item 3512 combined have less people using it than hunters pot ever did. and those aren't even temporary items. people used hunters potion. if no one used it than NO ONE WOULD BE ON THE BOARDS ASKING FOR IT BACK!

Actually of the three items you mention only ohmwhrecker is not used. Shurelias, and zz rot are commonly used in higher ranks on certain champions and are much more commonly used then hunters potion. Hunters potion was not a good item at all and it removal is a sign that riot is finally starting to take their game in the right direction. But hey if you want to keep complaining when riot makes a good choice then do start crying when the make a bad one.

4444branko44441 votes

Riot is starting to make game in right direction ?????? But when u say: can you stop fking feeding usseles shitt! u get chat restriction (btw i flamedEvelynn who was 2/18) and she and her stupid (Aatrox 7/20) brother reorted me and i got perma! riot is trash! let people feed but never say bad word ! L1ke fck you riot [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Pokemonred2001 votes

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Id put money on the bet that item 3056 item 2065 item 3512 combined have less people using it than hunters pot ever did. and those aren't even temporary items. people used hunters potion. if no one used it than NO ONE WOULD BE ON THE BOARDS ASKING FOR IT BACK!

While I did use Hunter's Potion occasionally, it was never something I truly felt I needed, though it had really great sustain.

item 3056 is in the game because of it being a refer-a-friend reward, so it's basically untouchable regardless of its usage, so I'd give you that.

However, you'd lose your money over item 2065and item 3512 having less people using it overall than hunter's potion did, because:

item 2065 was one of league's oldest items (added in Season 1 in the same patch as Sona, reworked and renamed to become item 3306 in Season 4's support item rework, and then re-introduced directly last year after Talisman bit the dust). It even had a very strong period of dominance for almost a month because of its stat profile and low price and cooldown, and had to be nerfed because it was meta (though it's still seen sometimes because it has a niche)

item 3512 is a year older than Hunter's Potion was and it dominated several metas, having periods where at least two of them were seen per team for months. It's not seen as often now, but that's because it had to be effectively killed for it to not be a game-defining item. And even then, it still has an occasional niche pick.

Hunter's Potion by comparison was never truly a game changer, though it was a helpful item nonetheless. It would probably have been picked a lot more often if sustain wasn't trivial to access, but since it's gone now it's not like there's much more that can be done to change that.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

You really shouldn't have. It was really weak. It took about 2 charges of hunters potion to break even with even a basic refillable charge. After your first clear once you have the full basic jungle item and your choice of follow up starting item, you should have never needed both charges to clear the jungle unless you were something like Jungle brand, which even then didn't need hunter's.

I Kill You homie1 votes

If people are actually using it, and you claim it isn't being used, doesn't that in fact make you your point invalid??

4444branko44441 votes

Look at this "beuty" item 3056

4444branko44441 votes

This thing right here item 3056

4444branko44441 votes

Riot can't fix banning thing like 4 years for now! im getting chat restrictions for swearing a 2/18 evelynn in ranked game ???? and it's all bc she is "new player" and she and her brother (7/20) aatrox report me ! Hunter's potion is good on some champs but i rly like it bc it's the first thing i bought when i started playing league i was rushing it like first item xD

theChibiTina5 votes

Hunters potion was great because you could use a charge to help get through a camp and the charge would be replaced. I don't know where they get their info from, but either it's wrong or the item was just underrated by players who didn't quite understand how it worked and deemed it useless or the fact that riot themselves didn't have it under their recommended builds so new players had no idea it even existed. Bring back Hunter's Potion!

Soul Dealer3 votes

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Hunters potion was great because you could use a charge to help get through a camp and the charge would be replaced. I don't know where they get their info from, but either it's wrong or the item was just underrated by players who didn't quite understand how it worked and deemed it useful or the fact that riot themselves didn't have it under their recommended builds so new players had no idea it even existed. Bring back Hunter's Potion!

It was not great. No one used it because it was a bad item.

theChibiTina2 votes

It was a bad item because powerfarm junglers aren't good due to how much they fucked jungle with all the xp nerfs. It's good for them, but not good for gank heavy junglers which is what's meta now because you can't get enough xp to go even with your laners late so you have to constantly be ganking to snowball your laners so they can carry. Junglers right now can hardly go even in xp with bot lane.

Edit: Why do you think funnel strat is so powerful. It's the only way a jungler can get enough xp and gold to actually carry.

Feel Apathy1 votes

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Hunters potion was great because you could use a charge to help get through a camp and the charge would be replaced. I don't know where they get their info from, but either it's wrong or the item was just underrated by players who didn't quite understand how it worked and deemed it useless or the fact that riot themselves didn't have it under their recommended builds so new players had no idea it even existed. Bring back Hunter's Potion!

It's a useless item as it's not needed by the top tier junglers (the ones with sustain), the ones that could use it should just get buffed instead rather than spending 250 gold on a niche potion

4444branko44441 votes

ugh item 3056 ugh Maokai ugh item 3512

ZephyrDrake5 votes

here comes all the people who built the item out of nowhere. The item was barely used and got removed. Simple as that. This is literally like Dominion where as soon as it got removed suddenly everyone played it regularly at that! but then you look at their match history... not a single game. Sorry but maybe if people actually bought the item it'll have stayed. Sorry but you being in the 0.000000000000001% of people who bought it mean nothing. Item was terrible, no point in ever taking it, anything that item could achieve is very easily solved by simply giving the champions some base stat buffs.

BackdoorPrincess4 votes

It's almost like removing something entirely gets the attention of the people who used it... I didn't buy it a ton but on champs like Udyr or Hec I'd be buying it specifically because A) both mana and health sustain that gains charges per camp and B) if I'm going to be back to back ganking across the map or counterjungling it helped keep me at full for the inevitable jungle skirmish that was gonna happen, for a relatively low price, which isn't even including the sustain it gave junglers whose builds don't really incorporate a lot of innate lifesteal/spellvamp. I'd be fine if they removed it but added a little sustain onto the jungle items themselves, as of right now it just hurts jungle viability on niche picks

4444branko44441 votes

Just look at this things item 3056 Maokai item 3512

stopthesinged5 votes

Hunters potion was a noob trap, end of story. If you had to use it as a crutch to avoid learning how to kite jungle camps, then I think it’s a good thing it was removed tbh.

Håppy4 votes

Hunters Potion is essential in making junglers without built-in sustain viable. It's also crucial in keeping you topped up for ganking, and almost a must-have if you plan on doing raptors early game. So fucking stupid they removed it. But hey, guys, Ohmwrecker!!

Ackelope11 votes

i have never found it essential for any of these things when playing jungle.

Sp33d Zer05 votes

Same. Even on SUPER off meta junglers like Brand I have never found myself thinking "yea, I want less powerful, but more uses on a potion"

Håppy2 votes

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i have never found it essential for any of these things when playing jungle.

Congratulations.

Ackelope2 votes

it's just a little puzzling to me. It makes me want to watch a game of you playing jungle/take a look at your pool of jungle champions and see what's different, for you to use the word essential.

I'm not trying to flame or brag or anything here, I don't think it really comes down to a matter of skill, because when I look at your profile, it seems to me that you're overall a better player than I am.

Håppy1 votes

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it's just a little puzzling to me. It makes me want to watch a game of you playing jungle/take a look at your pool of jungle champions and see what's different, for you to use the word essential.

I'm not trying to flame or brag or anything here, I don't think it really comes down to a matter of skill, because when I look at your profile, it seems to me that you're overall a better player than I am.

In the current jungle meta, level-2 fights and early ganks are required to keep your team in the game. Hunter's Potion helps keep you topped up in between camps, usually one dose is enough when mixed with the hunter's talisman, however it's WAY more useful if you take Machete. Hunter's Potion also enables things like early dragons when combined with blue buff. It allows for off-meta picks and build paths (I've recently been enjoying not taking turtle stance on Udyr, for example, and the hunter's potion helps cover that lack of sustain in the jungle as a cheap and efficient purchase.)

It's definitely based on playstyle. But you'll notice now that a lot of people who built this item are coming up and speaking out against it being removed, as it was a core part of their early jungle survival against invades or for dueling. I personally believe that a jungler's performance, regardless on who it is, would go up from an early HP purchase, especially because it's such an effective item that you, like with Corrupting Potion, can keep it until your last item (And when Time Warp Tonic made you 5% faster while under a potion's effects, I actually chose Hunter's Potion as my sixth item on champs like Udyr, meaning I bought it early and never sold it.)

Arsinik4 votes

I too feel a void where hunters potion used to be. Seems like mage junglers are going to suffer the most. I thought it was great but you cant ignore facts i guess. If no one was taking it besides the few on this post and myself then I guess we were wrong.

Ninjas Flossing3 votes

this was by far the single biggest nerf in this recent patch for me. every single jungle that i play relies heavily on the sustain hunters pot gives. it is a mistake i dearly hope they remedy

Infernape3 votes

To be fair it was a noob trap. The people that took it were either Ornn jungles (which makes sense considering his mana costs) and people that couldn't path correctly and were low on HP/mana.

BLIGHTBRINGER2 votes

item 2032 Hunters Potion was really good on Ivern. Because when you mark camps you loose a lot of health so I consume a couple of charges of Hunters Potion, but when you finish those camps you get those charges back.

As for Mana, he had this to help him out item 3028

Now I can't use the Ivern item 2032 strat anymore.

Bloodrage Shadow2 votes

I don't even remember the last time I saw anybody buy that item lol.

DankDanielSan2 votes

i feel the same way about poachers dirk, that needs to come back too.

Apostle of Light2 votes

I feel like anyone who needs hunter's potion to be successful doesn't know how to clear jungle camps efficiently

CrazyMonkeyCZ1 votes

Is there actually anyone outside of iron who builds it?

Metal Janna2 votes

G4 and I built it when facing poke supports that can't outright kill me. Basically lets you ignore any 5 pokes while also giving some mana sustain.

Sunbreaker1 votes

Wait you were using it in lane??? How does that make any sense, it's just a worse version of Corrupting Potion in lane.

Metal Janna1 votes

Well Hunter's Potion was a tiny bit cheaper... But you're right. Corrupting pot is better than Refill pot even without its passive. I just assumed the balance team knew what they were doing.

4444branko44441 votes

It was still good on zed pff and who the fucck plays Maokai

4444branko44441 votes

mhmmm is there anyone who plays Maokai

Oleandervine1 votes

I've literally never seen anyone use it for months. I'd forgotten it was even a thing.

Snowbrand1 votes

I don't really care, but I've never used it the last couple of seasons so I'm not sad it's gone either

BlGFISH1 votes

Its a crutch for bad junglers who don't know how to play efficiently. The only jungler worth taking it on is Ornn because he doesn't have to recall to purchase items.

I only ever built it once when it first came out, realized it's garbage and never built it again. Maybe learn how to play jungle properly.

GamerGirl o1 votes

Never used it, never needed to. Useless item is useless. If you need that many pots to survive, you are clearly doing something wrong.

TLF brubie1 votes

When I saw this post I thought it was a petition to bring an old item back in the game, TIL Hunter's potion is still an item. Haven't seen it in plat in at least a year.

UndefinedMeme1 votes

Without hunters potion jungling is so hard in low elo, its like riot only care about their high elo players and don't give a damn about low elo. The potion is so effective in mid game as you can just go around your jungle kill some camps amd get a free potion with mana in no time. Riot is trying to make the game less fun now. If we are going a non-jungler without hunters potion the guy will think he made a big mistake going the champion. If you want to remove an item remove Ohmwrecker, who in the hell uses that item 1 out of 100 will use Ohmwrecker.

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