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how to beat draven in lane

MoS8··2 votes·16,620 views

Hell guys, I main adc and I love to play adc. But i rly having problem with draven with most of adc (specially with tristana) i hate him he is so op as fk his auto attack is deal op dmg i know if i got good supp i can beat him but most of time i can't do anything vs him si i need tips to beat him in lane what is his weakness i tried ninja tap but it seems like it's useless. Just please give me real tips to beat him when to go all in him when to not (specially as Tristana). Thank you...

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A Doorknob2 votes

It's simple. Don't feed him. If he isn't ahead he is automatically behind because Draven doesn't have a real passive like other ADC's. Unless the Draven you're playing against is really good at manipulating his axes, he falls off hard late game as catching axes in team fights becomes more difficult. Catching axes is easier to do when your ahead of the game and full build by min 30 as your chunking the enemy down in 3 hits. If you don't feed Draven, Draven is forced to throw more axes which mean he's more likely to miss axes. So, when laning early game against a Draven, just don't fight him unless you're receiving a gank. Even if your 35 farm behind, your technically ahead, and you will eventually catch up in CS. Draven NEEDS kills, without them he simply is played like a normal ADC and his dmg ends up feeling like every other adc but with a weakness that outshines his strength. Most Dravens aren't Vincent, and so if you don't feed him they usually fall behind.

Runesnag1 votes

I dont think you're going to beat him in lane barring your support making plays for you or him just sucking. He is oppressive and counters trist pretty hard.

Eternal Torment1 votes

Well, against a draven you pretty much wanna Play ADC's that can A compete with his Burst and B can zone him. Or someone who can poke him from a safe distance.

The two main ADC's for this list would be Ezreal and Caitlyn. Caitlyn traps are nightmares to Draven, she can just place them where his axes are, and picking them up will be impossible without Walking into one, giving you a free Headshot AA from a range he can't do jack against. Your Objective is to prevent draven from catching his axe, his passive stackings and his Q empower are what make him so strong. Deny him those two and he will be pretty much Useless.

Ezreal is a similar story. You can't zone draven, but you can poke from very safe distance and, incase you somehow magically do fuck up, get a free flash on a basic ability as an escape. Plus draven Earlygame can't fight Extended battles or kyte due to his W manacosts being insane if he spams it. So a good gank from very mobile champions, suggestively Lee sin, hecarim and co will do well.

As for Supports, i have seen nami fare best vs draven due to her Q bubbles outgrowing his Q pickup hitbox by more than double, meaning draven will either catch the axe and suffer horrendous harrass or drop it and lose a lot of damage.

Long story short, Play Safe, Outpoke him, outburst him IF YOU CAN, and most importantly, zone him the fuck away from his axes. Draven is the most predictable adc due to his axes having fix distances for being picked up aswell as being revealed to everyone AND having an 1.5 second animation time between jumping from whatever he hit to landing on the ground or being caught. Means if draven waits out the axes, you have realistically seen half of that time, means a 0.75 second window where he will stand still or just minimally leave the spot he is at, giving you a good opportunity to cc him.

My ideal suggestion in this case is, as named, either an Ezreal-thresh or an Caitlyn-nami botlane duo

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Click R for Win,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EAEBAE3T,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-04T14:51:13.567+0000) Plus draven Earlygame can't fight Extended battles or kyte due to his W manacosts being insane if he spams it.

That's not true though.

In an extended battle, it doesn't matter about his W cost because yes it's mana heavy, but it's still completely usable. That with his Q steroid gives him a very strong early game in extended fights.

What he doesn't wanna do is have quick trades where he's popping his W but barely even gets to use it. He W's and E's in a trade, using ~90 mana, but he doesn't get that much damage off, maybe 1 or 2 autos. Do it over and over, and he goes oom

Plus Q itself is really strong.

Eternal Torment1 votes

he can make trades yes, but when it Comes to long ongoing fights draven is as good as dead assuming he did not kill his target first. Draven's biggest power lies in All out's and quick trades due to his Q offering a good burst but also the strongest earlygame AA's among the adc, IF played correctly. but as a compensation for that he suffers a lot of mana issues should he go overboard. Baiting a draven into consistent offense can drain his mana so quickly that he will practically be forced to recall once he is empty of it because the Q mana costs will Keep him at low if you manage to zone him from his axes, causing him to constantly recharge them through his abilities. So once a draven is out of mana and has no axes you are safe to assume he will either back or receive a gank in the next 2-3 minutes

Sir Fuzzi1 votes

One point for Ezreal's favour is his build flexibility, particularly here where he enjoys great use from Iceborn in this particular matchup. Draven's damage is going to come from the empowered autos, so you want to try and force him to drop axes and walk out the caught axes.

You can also be cheeky and bring a blind to a Draven lane. He'll need a very independent partner in-lane for this, because with a good bully on your side like Leona, you can put Draven in a world of hurt.

But in the end, Draven is all about his axes. With them, he's great; without them, not so much. He's very 'average' otherwise.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

I just had a Draven on my team that fed. How is he OP ?

Michael7021 votes

The good thing about Draven is that you know where he's going to be (catching axes). Use that to your advantage. Your support should too.

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

Draven's biggest weakness is easily his predictability. You are going to want to aim your skill shots where his axes are going to land.

Trist, on this note, is not very good at this. Varus, Cait, Jhin and Jinx to name a few can all punish Draven for trying to catch his axes. Skill shots that pass through or ignore minions will be the most consistent in this regard.

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