Cassiopeia Patch 6.9 Build Questions

Zerolera·4/28/2016, 8:58:09 PM·4 votes·4,382 views

I apologize if there's already a thread like this, however I haven't seen one. I'm writing this to ask if people have thought about what they're going to build on Cassi with her upcoming rework and the mage items changing.

Items Personally I think I'll go with the following: item 3040 item 3165 item 3027 item 3135 item 3089 item 3157 I like the CDR idea on her especially with the increased mana pool from morello now which would synergize with Seraph, however since it has decreased on ROA I'm seriously considering replacing that item with item 3116 as the slow is simply too good I think on her for kiting, continuous damage and clearly marking who you've poisoned. Also since twin fang won't go on cooldown you could hit someone which would slow them, and then use your noxious blast to make it easier to land.

Total AP calc with runes and masteries comes out to about 910 with 30% CDR from the items alone and 3200 mana perfect for spamming spells. The mana could be reduced to 2800 to get the slow from Rylai's instead which would also slightly lower the AP.

Runes and Masteries I'm unsure whether to go the deathfire or thunderlord's route now. Before deathfire was a sure pick however now having the 45% CDR cap means that twin fang would be on a 0.495 CD vs a 0.54 CD and you could level up noxious blast first and combine with each cast to proc thunderlords early on when you're a bit weaker. However deathfire still scales insanely well into the late game whcih is where Cassi will still shine. I also think I will really use CDR per level runes * 6 to get that 10% extra CDR at 18 while the other 3 will be flat mr to survive the early game.

Skill Level Order Noxious Blast is looking more and more attractive to level up first when I consider how the movement speed gained now increases per level, it got a slightly increased damage per level, a scaling up to .7 from .45 and a slightly lower cooldown. On the other hand twin fang now scales per level only on the increased damage to enemies poisoned while the normal scaling is based per level.

Just curious as to what people think. Definitely love Cassi and I'm excited for this rework.

Edit: Another thing as well when comparing RoA vs. Rylai's is that you lose 400 mana and 100 health for a slow and not having to wait for stacking the item but you also lose the ability to heal an extra 20 health per twin fang cast. The AP is the same at 100 but you'd lose 12 AP from the lack of the mana pool.

10 Comments

xxxMadLionxxx4/28/2016, 10:08:38 PM3 votes

you kknow six items and no boots cost more gold right? And most games rarely ever last long enough? Dont get your hopes up

ltmetal4/28/2016, 10:09:53 PM1 votes

I think item 3116 item 3151 is going to be core on her to enable her combos and chasing as well as provide the flat pen she will be missing without item 3020 . My guess for the build is this: item 3165 item 3136 (Hextech Frost Cannon) item 3116 item 3089 item 3135 item 3151

Quepha4/28/2016, 10:24:09 PM1 votes

I think you really want to plan to hit the cdr cap or close to it every game through a combination of cdr items and runes. As a dps mage she just scales so much with it. Rylai's still seems core on her since she still has a great single target spell and wants to kite enemies.

I think deathfire is better now than it was before because Cass will be constantly spitting out damage and more liberally swapping targets due to a reduced punishment from twin fanging a target without a poison on them. Thunderlord's was always easy to proc on Cass but she just got more out of deathfire anyways. She doesn't get the super high AP values for the scaling now, but I think being able to E on different targets without being punished will more than make up for that.

MunchCrunchLunch4/29/2016, 12:34:13 AM1 votes

ROA getting somewhat nerfed. its too strong atm anyway. but can't pass all that mana stacking for the extra ap from seraphs passive. from morellos and stuff.

Romans 84/29/2016, 12:54:12 AM1 votes

My personal core Cassiopeia build:

  • Rylai's Scepter
  • Seraph Embrace
  • Rabadan Deathcap
  • VoidStaff
  • <Defensive Item, usually Guardian Angel, but also Abyscal Scepter or Zhonya's depending on the enemy team- UNLESS I already have several tanks on my team providing me with a lot of CC/peel>

Last item should be:

  • Luden's Echo
  • Liandry's Torment
  • Morellicon or Athenes (CDR)

Honestly, I think her rework is garbage.