Manamune and its Viability

Akindled Soul··2 votes·511 views

As you all know, item 3004 was an item that was targeted around AD casters or simply champions that are spammy and have single-target spell(s) that uses Mana. But since then this item has not been even viable for a majority of the champions including those that used to primarily built this. i.e. Jayce Blitzcrank Pantheon etc. (Do note that the Manamune build for some of these champions was long ago.)

Nowadays, it's just better to build go full Lethality ( item 3147 item 3814 item 3142 ) than even bother going for item 3004 . I still think to this day that item 3004 is still an interesting item, but it just lacks incentives for building it when it is outclassed by so many other items.

This item really needs a bit of love. I'm not sure what exactly can they do, but it's better than removing this item. Maybe add an active that doubles its passive effect for 5 seconds. Or an active/passive that has the effect of Spell Weaving (An old mastery that buffs ability damage when you damage an enemy champion with basic attacks) or some form of that.

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Pierce The Veal1 votes

It's already a common buy on Kassadin and Ezreal, soooo, idk.

Theoretically it is amazing on jax if you can survive early game.

All it needs perhaps is a bit more AD. Heck, maybe make it add some (like half?) of the damage to aoe spells as well.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

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It's already a common buy on Kassadin and Ezreal, soooo, idk.

Theoretically it is amazing on jax if you can survive early game.

All it needs perhaps is a bit more AD. Heck, maybe make it add some (like half?) of the damage to aoe spells as well.

problem is charging it, takes so fucking long you invest 750g into your early game and it will take around 20 minutes + another 1650 gold to turn it into a useful item.and outside of morello there are no intresting choics for mana items for ap champions. i never see archangels built outside of cassiopia. if it charged faster then it would be bought more.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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problem is charging it, takes so fucking long you invest 750g into your early game and it will take around 20 minutes + another 1650 gold to turn it into a useful item.and outside of morello there are no intresting choics for mana items for ap champions. i never see archangels built outside of cassiopia. if it charged faster then it would be bought more.

The reason acrhangels is built is because it charges at 8 per cast. Manamune charges at 4 per cast or auto attack, which share a timer. Imo, I think the auto attacks should have their own timer and casts should have their own timer, allowing manamune to stack as fast as archangels. This would roughly double its stacking speed assuming you can constantly cast basic attack and abilities.

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