Jungle Even More Tiresome This Season

Ambitious Minnow·12/22/2019, 5:32:24 PM·20 votes·11,006 views

Nothing short of a Very Successful Game will allow me to keep up with the laners, especially mid and top. Only the most successful jg games, like 3+ kills by 4 minutes, give me a chance of keeping up with top lane.

I can't roam jg without getting smashed my mid or top, I can't help defend lanes. I can't leach off lanes without them complaining to high heavens.

Devs, I challenge you:

Play Kindred jg right now, no leash for 20 games, tiny defecit, to see how you do. Report back. It's so obvious in each game I'm stupefied there has been no immediate response from Riot. Every single game ends in one to two teams crying about how trashy their jg is. Even when it's the other guy, I'm tired of hearing it.

39 Comments

Super Sandmanne12/22/2019, 6:41:06 PM12 votes

It's perplexing that they went down this path at all, since I'm fairly certain most players would agree that jungle xp should have gone up since last season, not the other way around. I'm not saying that we should bring back devourer farming jungle meta, but would it be so terrible if farming the jungle gave as much xp as farming a lane?

Jokez12/22/2019, 10:43:44 PM11 votes

As a very seasoned jungler, who punishes early game mistakes and I farm efficiently 70 per 10 minutes, I cannot hit level 6 until top and mid are level 8. I'm taking into account that I get at least 1 scuttle and 2-1/2 to 3 full clears with 4 buffs. I will only be ahead with an early shutdown or early dragon plus 2 kills. I MUST have a minimum one kill plus the latter of near-perfect farm to stay within one level of mid and top to transition to mid game as a useful teammate. I am a nocturne main. Due to mid and top gaining level 6 much faster I cannot assist or defend against a roaming laner.

FSRER12/22/2019, 7:20:29 PM7 votes

Toplane (except if you are a meta slave) is **not **fun Jungle is extremely **not **fun Midlane (except if you are a meta slave) is **not **fun Botlane(except if you are a meta slave) is **not **fun Anyone else notices a pattern over here or is it just me?

Wordson1x12/22/2019, 6:38:02 PM7 votes

I play Kindred and I have to say. This is the least fun I've had playing them in a long time. And even before this season the champion wasn't even that fun half the time.

The thigh guy12/23/2019, 1:05:42 AM6 votes

And all this happened because top laners cried “jungle op!!!!!!” For 2 fucking seasons all while fucking every other role into the ground.

TheInnocentdevil12/23/2019, 4:02:38 AM2 votes

The sad thing is riot makes the same mistakes repeatedly, they tried lowering the experience before and it had the same effect this time which they said was unintended. Reducing experience in the jungle doesn't reduce jungle impact since now I need to make up for that experience you took meaning I have to gank more so I can tax. Literally created the opposite effect again!

Drouse12/23/2019, 8:04:05 AM2 votes

Why can't we just get back to S5 jungle? Just don't add back devourer and we're fine.

Dr Endeavor12/22/2019, 8:27:44 PM1 votes

I can never pick a jungler that can do it all, but I am expected to do it all

No matter what I pick I gain a weakness somewhere that my team has to help with. I notice the teams that work with me often win by a landslide. Most the time only one person does (if that), which leads is to a never ending struggle until a nexus breaks on either team.

BigFBear12/23/2019, 7:44:54 AM1 votes

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Every single game ends in one to two teams crying about how trashy their jg is. Even when it's the other guy, I'm tired of hearing it.

Lol... What's new about that? This is common behavior since I play this game.

Jokez1/15/2020, 1:21:06 AM1 votes

One of the best threads I've been a part of. I have been following it since it was posted.

Illabethe12/23/2019, 8:54:37 PM1 votes

Trashy Junglers are trashy junglers. 90% of the community is still trying to clear jung pathing from Red > Blue > Scuttle > Gank, when that literally hamstrings off about a level and a half from the clear.

IF YOU SKIP KRUGS ROUND 1 YOU ARE DOING JUNGLE WRONG.

I'm saying this as someone who plays both meta and nonmeta junglers; I can almost keep up with mid's levels. STILL. I can still beat bot levels. Yet when I support..... 90% of junglers are 1-2 levels below me. And then I look at what they have cleared. THEY ALWAYS LEAVE KRUGS.

muted team chat12/24/2019, 2:58:50 PM1 votes

You dont like being lvl 5 at 9 minutes?

UF Dan12/24/2019, 8:18:19 PM1 votes

It's just so crazy to me how Jg players can continue to complain while deciding 90% of games. It's real unfortunate that you can't 1v1 a solo laner as you single-handedly decide the fate of all 3 lanes and be the sole controller of objectives.

Teémò12/22/2019, 11:26:12 PM1 votes

item 3117 rip azul1v9 her jungling feels awful I agree. Not good being constantly behind when your a marksman in the jungle.[slayer-jinx-unamused]