You know how tanks can kill squishies, in a few seconds?

5000000000000000·Mar 14, 2017·6 votes·1,258 views

That's what divers should be doing But divers are doing assassin level damage

22 Comments

DragfinMar 14, 20175 votes

Know how squishies get killed in a few seconds by pretty much everyone when they are out of position?

But people still wine and bitch about getting killed in a few seconds anyway.

PhDs NutsMar 14, 20173 votes

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Know how squishies get killed in a few seconds by pretty much everyone when they are out of position?

But people still wine and bitch about getting killed in a few seconds anyway.

They don't even have to be out of position.

DragfinMar 14, 20172 votes

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They don't even have to be out of position.

Not going to argue with you when you see people who position well not get bursted all the time. You just need to learn to work with your team. 99% of you that bitch and whine think you are gods. I am not even that good and can stay alive by being in the right places. Stop sucking.

ErockandrollMar 14, 20171 votes

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They don't even have to be out of position.

A matter of a few seconds should be enough time to get some peel. Yet no one seems to have a ton of disengage, and the ADC's with self peel really arn't in the meta. (Maybe Cait or Blue build Ez)

Yet were in a meta where heavy pealing supports arn't their. It's either heavy sustain, (with redemption) or a heavy damage support with some, but not a ton of CC.

LordGeovanniMar 16, 20171 votes

squishy champions shouldn't be immortal just because they stood behind people 90% of the time other squishy champions because only squishy champions get to have fun in this meta.

sobi999Mar 14, 20172 votes

Those who play a squishy, non-mobile champ know exactly how easy they get killed.

Automated RivenMar 14, 20172 votes

Name me one bruiser that kills a squishy in under 3 seconds without being ungodly fed or building glass cannon?

5000000000000000Mar 14, 20171 votes

Vi and Hecarim are the most well known divers with high burst. Renekton too, although he's not played as often. If you're just saying bruisers to include juggernauts, Darius is one of the highest burst damage juggernaut. Illaoi too, I guess.

MissingKayoMar 14, 20171 votes

If a squishy dies to a juggernaut, that's their fault.

Vi and Hecarim both take around 2-3 seconds. Assassins take around 0.3-1 second.

5000000000000000Mar 14, 20171 votes

Or their team, but yes. I don't really have issues with juggernauts, but Automated Riven asked for a bruiser, so i thought it'd be appropriate to include juggernauts as well. I was considering including skirmishers too (as they used to be considered to be some mix of assassin and bruiser), but I thought a Riven main would know that skirmishers aren't bruisers.

Automated RivenMar 15, 20172 votes

I chose bruisers for the specific reason that they dont oneshot squishies. Assassins oneshot squishies but not even Vi and hec kill adcs in under 2-3 seconds unless up at least 2-3k gold. hell skirmishers dont even 1 shot squishies unless they go full damage and are also fed or its super late game and they find the adc alone.

llIllIllIllIllMar 15, 20171 votes

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I chose bruisers for the specific reason that they dont oneshot squishies. Assassins oneshot squishies but not even Vi and hec kill adcs in under 2-3 seconds unless up at least 2-3k gold. hell skirmishers dont even 1 shot squishies unless they go full damage and are also fed or its super late game and they find the adc alone.

It's not about 1 shotting them that's only beneficial because there's literally nothing they can do to react - it's about being able to duel them or be a big enough threat to kill/zone them out in a teamfight

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Automated RivenMar 15, 20172 votes

thats exactly what bruisers and scirmishers job is. Its to dive the adc and either kill him or ocupy him until your adc wins the rest of the teamfight.

PermabannedGarenMar 15, 20171 votes

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Name me one bruiser that kills a squishy in under 3 seconds without being ungodly fed or building glass cannon?

Jax maybe, though I guess he is a skirmisher and not a diver technically. He does build a lot of bulk while still being able to burst squishies though, which makes him a "bruiser" I guess. His DPS is just frankly very lacking for a skirmisher. I could take about three thousand of the practice tool's dummy's health in less than three seconds, and the practice tool has resistances about as good or better than an ADC's.

Xin Zhao as well, he destroyed it even more quickly than Jax did, with just bloodrazor and triforce as offense items.

Automated RivenMar 15, 20171 votes

I have not seen a xin kill an adc in even gold since crit xin was a thing like 4 years ago.

PermabannedGarenMar 16, 20171 votes

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I have not seen a xin kill an adc in even gold since crit xin was a thing like 4 years ago.

Are you suggesting that most ADCs beat Xin 1v1 given equal gold?

Because that's not true at all, lol. At six items Xin can stomp any of them but likely Vayne.

And he certainly does enough damage to 100-0 them in less than three seconds, going by the practice tool dummy.

Automated RivenMar 16, 20171 votes

nope. just saying i play in silver. thats all.

TyrekGoldenspearMar 14, 20171 votes

I agree.

Nerf Irelia.

normie sIayerMar 14, 20171 votes

Malphite "few seconds"

TyrekGoldenspearMar 14, 20171 votes

OP took lag into account.

LordGeovanniMar 16, 20171 votes

what divers? divers arent even being played. ps divers are prone to die to assassins just as well as adcs if they have a diver build but there is no diver build that exists everything is psuedo tanks. damage went up because defense went down adcs always died quickly execpt late season 5 early season 6 when there was no reason to pick a champion that wasnt an adc and that is what adcs are useing for a measureing stick for adc power the time when you couldnt play anything else. no other champion class has ever invalidated every other champion class at every stage of the game at the same time.