Why do you people on here object to nerfing OP heroes?

hallajuice··4 votes·1,253 views

Just a little something I've noticed on the forums. I do a lot of research on Tier list and when you find heroes that are constantly S rank across different sites its pretty obvious that said heroes are broken.

Yasuo,brand, pyke are but a few examples of broke OP heroes that are S tier.

I honestly think some of these heroes do need to be toned down.

Id like to remind people that this isn't a casual game but a highly competitive one.

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NemeBro5 votes

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Just a little something I've noticed on the forums. I do a lot of research on Tier list and when you find heroes that are constantly S rank across different sites its pretty obvious that said heroes are broken.

Yasuo,brand, pyke are but a few examples of broke OP heroes that are S tier.

I honestly think some of these heroes do need to be toned down.

Id like to remind people that this isn't a casual game but a highly competitive one.

Based on what is Yasuo S tier?

Moody P3 votes

Yasuo isn't broken

Hotarµ3 votes

I'm not opposed to nerfing champions who are considered strong/overbearing, but winrate does play a large role in that as well and we have to be fair.

Someone like Yasuo who has such a high skill ceiling (he does have a high skill ceiling due to popular belief, although I'm probably going to be downvoted just for saying that) has never had a high winrate for longer than a patch or two at a time. He's got a massive playerbase — one of the largest in the game — and yet has consistently hovered around a 47-50% winrate across all ELOs. Higher ELO players can capitalize on his weaknesses more which is why you see him at low ELOs and why he's scarcely seen at others.

Most of the champions complained about just aren't a problem at higher ELOs because the players know how to read guides and/or adapt to the champion's playstyle. Pyke, Yasuo, Irelia, Akali, and everyone else do have their counters and can be beaten in lane. In fact, I wrote this comment right here detailing the many ways Pyke can be beaten in lane, and that didn't even cover champion counters for supports and ADCs.


IMHO - People don't make an effort to change their strategies enough to actually counter the things they dislike fighting. One strategy will not work across a multitude of different situations. I do agree that more counterplay should be given to certain champions, but hitting them with a straight nerf isn't right because it won't fix the problem at hand.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

so apparently Yasuo has a 49.42% win rate 22.14% pick rate and a 24.57% ban rate in MASTER + games for this patch https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/master/plus/champion/Yasuo/

and if we want to go by tier/elo iron he has a 46.55% win rate bronze he has a 51.41% win rate silver he has a 50.99% win rate gold he has a 50.35% win rate plat + its 49.29% dia + 48.84%

so at the highest of elos he has a higher win % then he does in plat/dia games but his biggest win rate is in bronze while his worst win % is in iron.

so even in MASTER he is a highly picked/banned champ with near 50% win rate

now there is always the argument that win % alone dont dictate a champs strength on its own with out a higher then average pick/ban rates to go with. the base line for pick/ban is 7% so he has 3 times the pick and ban rate in the highest of elos.

this would indicate that he might be slightly over tuned.

Death by Glamour2 votes

cough Ahri Ahri Ahri cough cough

BlueBilberry1 votes

It comes down to time invested on champions. Some people have made strong bonds to their champions - partially due to the addiction created when they get a stomp with their favourite OP bruiser/assassin. On top of that, those people who aren't playing champions that counter their stompage demand strongly for their nerfs (e.g., Janna, Sona, Nami, insert-tank-name-here, etc.) and call the countering champions "anti-fun".

LTK KoRo1 votes

Ehh, not really. I mean, you're kind of right in the first statement. People don't really want their mains to be weak, so even if they're OP they won't be happy too see them nerfed. But it's only natural.

The second part is just bullshit. No one wanted Janna or tanks being nerfed just because they're unfun. Back in season 7 game was in pretty shit state, do you know why? Because if you picked anything else than tank top/jungle and enchanter bot you were crippling your team. Add to this fact that games in s7 resolved only around botlane and congratulations, you have a lot of hatred for botlane from junglers and tops.

Bobloser35551 votes

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Just a little something I've noticed on the forums. I do a lot of research on Tier list and when you find heroes that are constantly S rank across different sites its pretty obvious that said heroes are broken.

Yasuo,brand, pyke are but a few examples of broke OP heroes that are S tier.

They are not broken, just popular althou Brand is a little op I agree.

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