@ Riot Lets Discuss the current stats of Kayle

Helliom·Mar 3, 2015·4 votes·1,571 views

Any proposed changes or QOL changes to male her a viable pick again?. Or as just leave her at the trash can :P

A simple Yes or No would be great

18 Comments

Fires of JusticeMar 3, 20152 votes

She's in an okay spot, I've been jungling her this season from Silver 3 to Gold 3. Since her nerf last season to attack speed, it does take her a bit of time to ramp up which makes her jungling a little sloppy early game. It would be neat if her passive can improve her quality of life a little bit in the Jungle, or even if it's just a movement speed increase. I'm running Smite (Trailblazer)/Teleport on her at this point.

HelliomMar 3, 20152 votes

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She's in an okay spot, I've been jungling her this season from Silver 3 to Gold 3. Since her nerf last season to attack speed, it does take her a bit of time to ramp up which makes her jungling a little sloppy early game. It would be neat if her passive can improve her quality of life a little bit in the Jungle, or even if it's just a movement speed increase. I'm running Smite (Trailblazer)/Teleport on her at this point.

I have around 50-55% success with her when i jungle.. but i have also learnt one thing if you have fallen behind you become pretty much useless... Making sure my Lanes are atleast 2-3 kill ahead or we will lose..

Duke AnaxMar 3, 20151 votes

It's nearly impossible to fall behind with Kayle and not get back.

She is one of the few Champs that can have Runaan's hurricane in her core.

Jungle I go Devourer, Ionian, Stinger, Runaan,

No matter how the game started I usually end with more CS than anyone. And that gives Gold big time.

HelliomMar 3, 20151 votes

If you hard farm or take lane farm then you will get back :D

Well if you are going Runnan on hit build then you are already going with some drawbacks...

1st in team fights you are extremely short ranged which forces you to stand close to your opponent (most CC and Gapclosers are can easily get close) and if your team doesn't know how to peel for you ..you will not be able to deal enough damage and will die instantly.. here the dps is without range (noting runnan does not prioritize Champion ) check the damage delt to champions at end of the game you will see what i mean... This doesn't really work agnst burst composition..

Something i would suggest for someone who plays Kayle is -> Magus + Sorcs + Nashors + Lich Bane + Zhonyas + Void Staff

Kayle previously had a tradeoff high damage (burst or DPS) to low range and defense Like a hypercarry.. If you are good enough to dodge skillshots and kite you can do shit load of damage

Jax is still a late game beast why can't Kayle be the same

Duke AnaxMar 3, 20152 votes

She will be quite interesting with Luden's Echo I imagine. Her AA count as spells, so it's gonna charge fast.

HelliomMar 3, 20151 votes

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She will be quite interesting with Luden's Echo I imagine. Her AA count as spells, so it's gonna charge fast.

If that is so then i will play LOL again :D

HizsooMar 3, 20151 votes

Nope, tested by THE Kayle main, watched it on stream.

Irelia BotMar 3, 20152 votes

Her jungling should get a little easier with a couple camps losing some of their damage.

Gromp damge reduced to 83 down from 90 small raptors do 16 damage down from 20 Crimson Raptor Damage reduced to 45 from 55

BronzeVOnlyMar 3, 20151 votes

She's not male she is female

The Bearded BardMar 3, 20151 votes

Are you planning on elaborating on why you think she's in a bad spot or just leave us guessing? Personally I don't like her as a champion so I don't care much about her.

HelliomMar 3, 20152 votes

Well i can give a lengthy detail why but i guess it's pointless as people who scream she was OP are the ones who don't play her :D

TalamareMar 3, 20151 votes

stfu

Do you even know what Kayle's ultimate does?

Instant speed IMMORTALITY for a few seconds

If Kayle is ever good enough for LCS, she will get nerfed

and have you seen how Riot is nerfing recently? DO YOU WANT KAYLE's WINRATE TO GO FROM HER PERFECTLY AVERAGE 50% ish TO LIKE 30%

HelliomMar 3, 20154 votes

Lol... it's not Immortality you are not taking damage .. every freaking cc applies .... and the invenerability also becomes pretty much useless if you dnt have something to back it up... also it doesn't give you speed. play against a irelia and you will understand :P..

Her win rate does drop to 45% as an avg is arnd 48% she is playes arnd 2% so it will change quite a lot

Finally you don't even play Kayle lol

Mega NoobMar 31, 20151 votes

You have her ultimate in zhonya, and since anybody could throw CC on your during that ult, there is no difference between kayle ultimate and zhonya active.

DrakzulMar 3, 20151 votes

Kayle is totally fine where she is. Her damage has to be underscaled since her ultimate takes a large part of her power budget. She is balanced and can still have a major impact on games.

She just isn't broken like she was last season.

HelliomMar 3, 20152 votes

She was broken when they buffed the Nashor with 0.15. . now she is weak.. Late game Kayle is completely non-existant.. she neither has DPS nor the Burst.. 3 sec Ult is usleess when you can use it block all the damage and then still die as you don't have the damage

Power budget also adds your range es capability.. which is very Poor for Kayle... A good gank will most of the times will get a guaranteed kill or if the player is good then a flash :D...