Aren't some ad assasins a bit too naturally tanky?

kickyourteeth·Jul 20, 2018·2 votes·911 views

I'm just confussed ..... yesterday i had a game were i was stomping with and the enemy team had a . When i was lvl 14 i decided to watch the map and i clicked on Talon's face just to realize that a level behind and with only lethality he had 100 more health than me ......but that's not the funny part the funny part is that i had a that gave me 300 health and he was tankier than me a level behind and only with and .....I mean Eve and Talon are in the same class both are assasins and Talon is just tankier for no reason at all. Like i said i'm not mad or anything im just confussed

11 Comments

HP CrookshanksJul 21, 20182 votes

Because item 3812 item 3814 item 3026 item 3155 / item 3156 item 3139 / item 3140 item 3111 item 3047 item 3071 aren't enough for them. Especially is not broken enough to save them.

MrFawknSunshineJul 21, 20181 votes

hmm funny only two of those items have any HP in it at all

and secondly if you see my comment below with the base stats from champs of EVE and TALON at the levels the OP stats , talon only have 40 more base hp and less base armor and a bit more base mr

HP CrookshanksJul 21, 20181 votes

HP isn't the only stat to make you tanky.

MrFawknSunshineJul 21, 20181 votes

RIGHT but you are ignoring the fact that EVE has more base armor then talon

MrFawknSunshineJul 20, 20181 votes

at lvl 13 talon has 1628 base hp and 68 armor 53 mr where eve has 1588 base hp 79 armor 47 mr

so that is a difference of 40 base hp in favor of talon, 9 base armor in favor of eve 6 base mr in favor of talon

so how did he more HP with no hp items?

ZerenzaJul 21, 20181 votes

Short answer is he didnt lol He didnt get BC that game until 33 minutes in.

MrFawknSunshineJul 21, 20181 votes

so another player being bias? and twisting facts to suit their argument ?

ZerenzaJul 21, 20181 votes

Indeed.

MrFawknSunshineJul 21, 20181 votes

whats funny is im on another tread about mages dont have any armor or defensive items vs ad/assassins

people bring up item 3814 item 3071 as being unfair cuz they give HP and AD ( oh and the comment below too ) when mages have all kind of damage + hp items with other passives , a armor +ap+cdr+active item, and then i say well if u are facing alot of hard ad or a fed ad champ you can get ninja tabs to help, people say thats not fair

but yet mages/ap damage dealers get magic pen boots but there is no such thing for ad LUL it never ends with the player base, they all wanna circle jerk n cry over whatever they dont like cuz its not in favor to their bias

HyquiemJul 21, 20181 votes

Well talon isn’t a lethality builder at the most he builds flat AD.

aaaustindestroy1Jul 22, 20181 votes

Didn't happen
Champions that are based around dealing damage and aren't meant to be tanky are given slight increases in their base stats so that they are forced into actually itemizing for damage. It's a strategy used quite often, and it's used to make sure that they don't NEED the defensive stats all the time so they don't NEED to build tanky. Same goes for tank-based champions, they have higher base AD than others while having lower base HP. It's just to force them into their proper roles and prevent abuse of itemization.