Cassio

SpookyNeedle·Apr 22, 2016·2 votes·581 views

Now that I've gotten used to the reworked Cassio (not the one on PBE) I'm kind of dreading how she is turning out, I'm not sure id have the same success.

9 Comments

xxxMadLionxxxApr 22, 20162 votes

People are excited about her W and the new grounded mechanic, but until you actually play her right now, the won't realize she is under powered and unreliable.

TesracMay 5, 20161 votes

That grounded mechanic is total drek, doesn't interrupt movement abilities and doesn't stop all of them from being used inside it's area of effect. Just awful and gimmicky, I think it's just to distract people from the massive nerfs to her overall kit.

TesracApr 30, 20161 votes

Here new w won't be useful as a defensive mechanic since it always targets itself at max range, from my understanding the grounded debug doesn't stop an enemy in the middle of a movement ability so they can just dash through it. Losing her stacking passive means she won't have a late game power spike which will make her completely unviable during any phase of the game. Net result, Cassie is dead in the water forever and ever.

Taking away her ability to use boys and making her new passive movement speed, nice job Rito.

The Queen ViperApr 30, 20161 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

EcchiOtakuTMMay 1, 20163 votes

So we're just gonna ignore that her teamfighting power is boosted dramatically, she's less clunky, her healing was increased, E damage increased, W does something if you actually put in time to practice it along with better damage in less time, Better Q MS, More damage with Q too. They even reworked her passive into the kit, hell they even gave a free item slot.

Seems like the real net result is you being dumb and not able to actually understand the changes.

TesracMay 4, 20161 votes

How has her team fighting per increased? An extra item isn't going to compensate for losing 30% ap and 25% CDR late game, here W isn't a viable tool to keep people from diving you with it having a set cat range and her early game is going to suffer because of the lack of mobility. There's nothing in her kit to stop her from being dove under the tower or ganked by the jungle.... Talking about how powerful she'll be late game when she won't be able to survive the laning phase is silly.

Compare her changes to Brand, Vel'Koz or Malzahar, notice a difference?

OleandervineMay 4, 20162 votes

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How has her team fighting per increased? An extra item isn't going to compensate for losing 30% ap and 25% CDR late game, here W isn't a viable tool to keep people from diving you with it having a set cat range and her early game is going to suffer because of the lack of mobility. There's nothing in her kit to stop her from being dove under the tower or ganked by the jungle.... Talking about how powerful she'll be late game when she won't be able to survive the laning phase is silly.

Compare her changes to Brand, Vrl'Koz out Malzahar, notice a difference?

She didn't have anything in her kit prior to the Mage Update to stop her from being dived. And let me stop you right there. When she had that godf##king awful stacking passive, her laning phase was an absolute joke. Her skills did not damage without the passive milestones and E was the only part of her kit that was relevant. All an opponent had to do was avoid E and she was screwed. New Cassiopeia can actually scale on AP now without her ratios being dumpstered because it was all tied into that godf##king awful passive. Getting hit by her poisons now is relevant because they actually hurt. E is still similar to what it was, it just no longer is the damage focal point of her kit. She's in a much better state now than she ever was with the Shurima Update because she has relevant power the entire game, and not just 40 minutes in when she finally hit points on her passive.

TesracMay 5, 20161 votes

Her laning phase is still a joke, just with no payoff in the end game via her passive. None of the changes to her kit improved her gameplay in the least, none of them strengthened her place in the game either. The W is only useful for pushing enemies a little further away, especially since it doesn't stop movement abilities that pass through it, hell it doesn't stop some from being used inside of it, at least it doesn't stop Amumu bandage toss from being used inside of it. While they did improve the damage on her Q including doubling the ap scaling, they increased the cost and decreased the range, making it more difficult to try and trade with the enemy team.

Her poisons don't hurt now though, they're still difficult to land being easily juked with the casting delay and while W is big enough to hit some enemies the insanely long cd combined with the low damage adds up to nothing to speak of in damage or threat. I've played a couple of game with her new kit, enemies just walk up to you and kill you, there's nothing to stop them since her damage on E/W/Q isn't enough to scare the squishiest of enemies, god help you if you're facing a tank.

She used to be mostly irrelevant in the early game, but she was a great support role champ during laning phase because of her ability to zone with W and Q and the spike damage from E when she could land a couple in quick succession. The payoff for this meh early-mid game was massive damage output late game via her passive and E, now she doesn't get that and her early game didn't get a boost, just the opposite, she's more vulnerable to ganks and has nothing she can do about it.

You can tell me that she's better all you like, but that doesn't change the fact that she was significantly weakened in this patch and isn't a viable pick for any level of game play anymore.

EcchiOtakuTMMay 5, 20161 votes

She only lost 10% AP with how her ratios are now, cdr is easily accessible now no point in bringing that up, her W is still powerful when you learn to use it for keeping enemies where your team wants them, Her ulti is her anti-dive skill even if it's a medium CD on it. Old cassi had NOTHING early-late game new cassi can play excellent early-late and still be a powerhouse end game.

She still a power anti-mobility champ and has more benefits from her new kit then her old clunky one. Denying that much is folly.