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PETITION: To keep Support items HOW they are.

Support Position··2 votes·299 views

Riot shouldn't be removing MORE things from this game and possibly giving other cores the option to have these items when they rework them item 3401 item 3069 item 3092

Riot has done nothing in the terms of PROPER balance. So why should we be allowing them to remove these items to "rework" or so something to them.

Currently they are SUPPORT items. A LOT of CORE items.

They are going to remove them for supports to be FORCED to be Wards AGAIN. I thought we were DONE with that.

Arguement:

SUPPORTS ARE NOT ITEMS.
SUPPORT ARE NOT WARDS.
 
Why are we being deemed vision champions that do nothing else but place vision and have EVEN MORE less impact in the game?!?!?!?!

![item 3401](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3401.png) Do you know how many times I have SAVED peoples lives with this item alone? Because ![item 3107](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3107.png) ![item 3190](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3190.png) or abilities were on cooldown and I had forgotten about this item then used it?!?!?! 

A LOT.

![item 3069](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3069.png) Do you know how many times I have speed my team up to get a CLUTCH pick off so we could win the game. Especially in this CURRENT meta?

A LOT.

![item 3092](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3092.png) Do you know how many times I have USED this item for vision because I couldn't ward a specific area? And had had our team leave the area due to seeing their entire team and back off? 

Or see invisible champions?!

A LOT.

If ANYTHING ![item 2049](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/2049.png) this item needs to JUST BE BUFFED.

Make it 400 gold. SAME stats. 

![item 2045](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/2045.png) -400 gold. Keep a ![item 1028](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/1028.png) on it. SAME stats.

SIMPLE. If you are actually listening to the community riot. Why is this a hard balance thing. Warding is CURRENTLY useless. It does NOTHING. For this meta. Honestly as a support main ![item 2045](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/2045.png) ![item 2049](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/2049.png) is a WASTE of my gold. 

And personally I think I'm going to stop buying it soon. Why would I bother with something that doesn't help a in a 1 shot or less meta?

I wouldn't.

Instead I would want to RUSH ![item 3401](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3401.png) ![item 3069](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3069.png) ![item 3092](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3092.png) 

TO HELP MY TEAM LIVE. STOP RUINING THE GAME AND PLAY THE GAME. UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON PLEASE.

6 Comments

Śhunpo2 votes

This whole support itemisation update makes 0 sense to me since support items as they are now are, for the most part, absolutely fine. The only items that should be looked at are Targon's and Redemption (again).

Support Position1 votes

I agree with most of what you're saying here. However, Redemption doesn't need a nerf at all. It's too unreliable as an item, the cast time is forever, and by the time it procs your teams dead. It's only for:

~After T3 healing if wanting to push to "top up" ~To snipe a LOW hp enemy champion. ~To scare enemies from fighting and making your team feel they can go in.

It's one of the soul items I almost never buy same with locket for that matter.

Getting better at getting locket recently but anyway.

item 3097 item 3302 Now these items. I think the only "nerf" they need to receive. Is melee only. It would be a simple change and it would benefit highly.

Śhunpo1 votes

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I agree with most of what you're saying here. However, Redemption doesn't need a nerf at all. It's too unreliable as an item, the cast time is forever, and by the time it procs your teams dead. It's only for:

~After T3 healing if wanting to push to "top up" ~To snipe a LOW hp enemy champion. ~To scare enemies from fighting and making your team feel they can go in.

It's one of the soul items I almost never buy same with locket for that matter.

Getting better at getting locket recently but anyway.

item 3097 item 3302 Now these items. I think the only "nerf" they need to receive. Is melee only. It would be a simple change and it would benefit highly.

I just mean remove the damage portion of Redemption, it makes no sense.

Support Position1 votes

The damage doesn't even do enough to make a problem in the game. Doesn't need to be removed.

Baron Barian1 votes

I'm kind of confused. Looking at your match history, you've been building the stone on all of you games, and you've got a really good recent history as a support main, and in all of the games, you've gotten the sightstone and even other support items, even when you pick super weird champs for the role. Never would've thought a Swain support would win.

What I've read up says you definitely understand the important of the sightstone, yet here, you're complaining about it like it should be someone else's job to buy it. So how can you honestly say a sightstone is useless? Do really want your team to rush into the jungle with your team and get ace'd, all because THEY had wards down?

Support Position1 votes

No matter what I do as a warding support it doesn't do anything for my team.

I have found that 7/10 times. As a support I have to be the one doing the damage. Or making the play. Or getting the kill when the enemy runs away.

Sightstone doesn't do anything for me in terms of any of those things.

Do I want to place vision? Yes. It's part of my role. I accept that. However the support changes riot are placing are NOT welcomed.

As a support main I see these changes and it makes me not want to buy sightstone AT ALL. Literally at all.

They love fucking up roles that don't need to be fucked with. They love ruining the game that was fine to begin with.

"Don't break what's not broken" Unfortunately riot don't understand this logic.

The problem is the fact that the quests are so fun to do. They are REWARDING for the support players to DO them. 

~~The reason why I wouldn't want to buy sightstone anymore is to get READY for NOT buying the upgrade for sightstone. As personally I will be refusing to buy it.

As I can see them putting it on the T3. (Eye of _____) and removing the other items. The problem is I will then only be buying T2 for gold income and not giving a fuck about wards if they do this change. As I never EVER EVER upgrade the support gold income to T3 till 3rd maybe 4th item. As I NEED powerspikes. 

Which sightstone PROLONGS and now will only prolong further. 

~~
I apologize for the long post. *[slayer-jinx-catface]* if something doesn't make sense lemme know.

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