When are the Kindred nerfs coming in?

Mewko··5 votes·2,113 views

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Killer of Night94 votes

Next patch. Ult up 20 cd on every stage and W scale less with atk speed. Problem: he need only E damage down since he burst everyone too fast for a scaling champ

Blaene4 votes

I don't play Kindred but in my opinion, Kindred doesn't need a nerf. Personally, I think she's hard to play so if someone has learned how to play her well - good for them!

Honestly, I know some people aren't happy with the new Rune system but I personally believe that they've opened up game play to a lot of Champions that weren't previously viable. So, with creative Rune choices you might find just find a Champion that can counter Kindred. Either that or ban her during the Champion selection phase.

ImGodlyatYasuo2 votes

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I don't play Kindred but in my opinion, Kindred doesn't need a nerf. Personally, I think she's hard to play so if someone has learned how to play her well - good for them!

Honestly, I know some people aren't happy with the new Rune system but I personally believe that they've opened up game play to a lot of Champions that weren't previously viable. So, with creative Rune choices you might find just find a Champion that can counter Kindred. Either that or ban her during the Champion selection phase.

Dude kindred is braindead strong now dont try to stroke off kindred players a lot of them can just nuke other junglers at level 2 instead of making planned and intelligent decisions.

Blaene3 votes

Dude kindred is braindead strong now dont try to stroke off kindred players a lot of them can just nuke other junglers at level 2 instead of making planned and intelligent decisions.

Where are you getting your data? I don't see that played out in any statistics I've seen. Most sites that I've looked at show about a 51% average win rate on Kindred. If she's as strong as you guys are claiming, we would see a higher win rate.

I do see that people playing Kindred at the Challenger, Master, and Diamond tiers have extremely high win rates with her but they're beyond the average player.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Champions get balanced for every environment, not just low elo. If a champion is too strong in high elo or pro play, they get nerfed accordingly, as you can see with Shen as one of the prime examples for that.

Kindred is currently too strong in organised play and high elo, hence why they will get nerfed soon.

ImGodlyatYasuo1 votes

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Where are you getting your data? I don't see that played out in any statistics I've seen. Most sites that I've looked at show about a 51% average win rate on Kindred. If she's as strong as you guys are claiming, we would see a higher win rate.

I do see that people playing Kindred at the Challenger, Master, and Diamond tiers have extremely high win rates with her but they're beyond the average player.

HA THATS THE POINT! 51% WINRATE AVERAGE INCLUDING LOW ELO!!!! you fell for the trap. It means shes braindead easy for lower level players but as a champion based on individual skill her winrate should never be above 50% on average. Its like azir having a 50% average winrate in all elos and as you can see thats simply not true. See if you think about it they shouldnt be this strong if the average player can play them decently and the pro players can get these massive winrates on them its kinda self explanatory why she needs to be nerfed

Summonah123691 votes

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Dude kindred is braindead strong now dont try to stroke off kindred players a lot of them can just nuke other junglers at level 2 instead of making planned and intelligent decisions.

The only thing that makes Kindred strong are their MARKS.

ImGodlyatYasuo1 votes

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The only thing that makes Kindred strong are their MARKS.

Yes and their marks have been buffed to make way for the previous jungle meta and the new jungle meta shifted her into a even more powerful spot in the meta considering her early dueling power over other junglers!!!! ^-^ Victory screech "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 3 SHOTTED AT LEVEL 2 BY KINDRED" Kindred > Zac Vi Khazix (pre 6)Amumu Trundle Fiddlesticks Ivern ( No need to name more but i might as well do 2 more) Warwick Nunu

Summonah123691 votes

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Yes and their marks have been buffed to make way for the previous jungle meta and the new jungle meta shifted her into a even more powerful spot in the meta considering her early dueling power over other junglers!!!! ^-^ Victory screech "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 3 SHOTTED AT LEVEL 2 BY KINDRED" Kindred > Zac Vi Khazix (pre 6)Amumu Trundle Fiddlesticks Ivern ( No need to name more but i might as well do 2 more) Warwick Nunu

Actually, no, If you are as scummy as to go full AP Nunu his ult WILL 1 shot Kindred at full health. I´m not kidding, it happened to me...

ImGodlyatYasuo1 votes

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Actually, no, If you are as scummy as to go full AP Nunu his ult WILL 1 shot Kindred at full health. I´m not kidding, it happened to me...

Actually. no, If you are someone with an iq of <60 you will hit R when that full ap nunu does (when you notice kindred slowing down hit R)

Summonah123691 votes

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Actually. no, If you are someone with an iq of <60 you will hit R when that full ap nunu does (when you notice kindred slowing down hit R)

What if my R is on cooldown and I can't escape his ult in time? I'm dead.

ImGodlyatYasuo1 votes

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What if my R is on cooldown and I can't escape his ult in time? I'm dead.

So assuming you dont ward, you have flash down, ult down, low awareness, Q down, W down, and no boots than i suppose it is reasonable to assume a nunu can beat kindred in the jungle.

Summonah123691 votes

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So assuming you dont ward, you have flash down, ult down, low awareness, Q down, W down, and no boots than i suppose it is reasonable to assume a nunu can beat kindred in the jungle.

When did I say it was in the jungle? We were having a teamfight in our base (next to the midlane turret) and we were trying to get rid of Nunu. Then all of a sudden he pops his ult. I couldn't get out in time because of the slow.

Rouxful2 votes

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Dude kindred is braindead strong now dont try to stroke off kindred players a lot of them can just nuke other junglers at level 2 instead of making planned and intelligent decisions.

kindred has been dead for like two years. Finally becomes viable "NERF KINDRED"

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

No one says that Kindred should get nerfed out of viability, but decreasing their strength into a balanced state is a reasonable request.

Rouxful1 votes

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No one says that Kindred should get nerfed out of viability, but decreasing their strength into a balanced state is a reasonable request.

im just salty bc I love them

ImGodlyatYasuo1 votes

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kindred has been dead for like two years. Finally becomes viable "NERF KINDRED"

"Viable" You mean impossible to beat level 2 by most junglers... Its been the stupid as hell scuttle system as they already changed the marks to make them easier but then the meta shifted to level 2 fights something kindred does amazing in.

Rouxful1 votes

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"Viable" You mean impossible to beat level 2 by most junglers... Its been the stupid as hell scuttle system as they already changed the marks to make them easier but then the meta shifted to level 2 fights something kindred does amazing in.

Those fights are all about lane pressure. She can not do anything if a sup or mid or top even thinks about walking into the river. If you do not have pressure she will probably win. But at the same time if you have such a blatant idea of where she will be counter jg or do something on the map rather than try and fight it.

Summonah123692 votes

I hope never.

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