Support Poppy suffers from the range nerfs to her passive and heroic charge (e).

Legend Titan·7/7/2016, 6:35:51 PM·3 votes·601 views

I loved playing poppy support when her rework came out because it felt a very strong and viable role for her. Her W was a supportive move to protect a carry. Her ult is extremely supportive. Her E can be used defensively or aggressively. Since she was performing so well top lane, they nerfed her, but in a way that feels wrong. The range on her passive was completely removed it feels. When I am bottom lane, I cannot use her passive as harass and as a melee champion that has no range at all bottom, you struggle. Her range on the passive went from a relatively long range, to 375 units or something, thats like 2 teemos farther than just a normal auto attack. Basically you cant hit an adc or support with it without being in a stupid position. It still has its benefit as a relic shield proc from range though, which I will note is another aspect that made her feel good as support.

Her E also suffered a large range nerf. Yes her tackle is a very strong ability, but id much rather damage, or duration be nerfed than the range at which she can activate it. when clicking on a champion using my e, just like with her current passive, it feels wrong. The range where you can finally connect with the ability is far too short to feel meaningful in lane. Also there were a decent amount of cases where you could jump over a wall to stun someone over a wall. This felt satisfying and made her kit fun and flow. Nerfing the range on these abilities really hurts the feel of her kit and, in particular, hinders what role i think fit her kit the best, support.

Instead of buffing the stun duration or how much of a shield her passive gives, id much rather see the length of her playmaking return, and the strength of her abilities lowered. Her damage nerfed, the stun duration nerfed some. In a bottom lane scenario, her stun and passive now feel wrong. They feel clunky and it feels like you have to walk at the enemy awkardly before they take a step back and you have to walk back. You are horribly outranged now and the area that your abilities effect is pretty much limited to melee champions now. I think the feel and flow of a champion is important, and nerfing the two of the best parts of her new kit that aided her in a support role to have an area of control, are practically gone.

So once again, a single position for a champion ruins every other way the champion can be played. Of course poppy isnt unplayable support, but i went from maining her to not touching her, because its not really fun anymore. This probably goes for poppy jungle as well, with the range of her e lowered, what is she gonna do, run into lane and ult the enemy back to their base for a gank :P . Im just tired of having champions nerfed heavily in one position and have a horrible ripple effect to other positions. Yes poppy was oppressive top lane, but wasnt it because of her damage and that was nerfed. Also iceborn guantlets and sunfire were overpowered during that meta and every single champion top built them and did well, she was strong on her own yes, but I feel the items were a large part of that power as well. Now she sees no play at all on a competitive scene it seems. So then maybe bring back some of the flow and fun playstyle for everyone, and give her certain nerfs to compensate top poppy. I guess she was slightly over nerfed, and in addition badly nerfed in her other possible positions. This happens entirely too often. I know not every position for a champion can be made into a perfect balance, but when you guys say you balance for whatever position is best and healthiest to balance for, doesnt seem entirely accurate.

Take nidalee for example, she was deserving of some ad nerfs and such a long time ago, and they came, but you guys randomly made her a jungler? Then she was so strong as a jungler you guys were like oh crap oh crap nerfs nerfs, nerfs until today, more than a season later she is still getting them. Where does this put mid nidalee? her actual main role?

Clearly the main role of a champion isnt based on balance, its based on feel of a champion, and thats why the feeling of a champion shouldnt be effected this much when attempting to balance it for a certain role. Please return poppys flow and feel, with the range of her abilities not so undertuned to be balanced for all positions, not just one, since shes rarely played in any of them now. Please comment opinions and ideas, and your feelings on the subject, just keep things positive and give constructive responses.

9 Comments

Ralanr7/7/2016, 6:41:31 PM2 votes

Personally, I think having her AA reset back will help her jungling again.

The range nerf hit her hard, very hard. But there was a reason for it. She was very oppressive.

If they ever did increase her range, I imagine it'd be half of what they cut at most.

I'll probably never see the AA reset return. This saddens me greatly.

SaltyKracka7/7/2016, 7:14:53 PM1 votes

Frankly, Rito doesn't give a shit about support Poppy.

Malix Farwin7/7/2016, 9:24:48 PM1 votes

The biggest thing really that i hate about poppy is she lost the ability to do 2 lanes with the rework. Before she could at least Top and Jungle. Now she is a top only which riot swore up and down that they wouldn't do but did anyways.

Calabok7/7/2016, 11:47:13 PM1 votes

Support Poppy? Bad joke sir