Assassins Should Not Have Hard CC, Period

CloakAndGrenade·8/26/2019, 5:08:35 AM·4 votes·1,265 views

Let's take a look at the most broken assassins in recent memory. Ahri Constantly a pro-play nightmare and a favorite of mid-lane smurfs for a reason. Her charm allows her to get off everything in her kit once it lands. You'd have to be blind to miss the follow-up.

Leblanc Another pro-play balance nightmare with a stun with the world's most inconsistent proc range. The stun guarantees the full combo and chunks for half your HP when it procs to begin with.

Pyke Someone asked the question, "What if thresh and zed had a baby?" and this monstrosity is the result. A balance nightmare from day one of release and still gets a bi-weekly thread complaining about him to this day.

Elise Not so much an issue anymore but when she was an issue the biggest complaint high-elo players had about her revolved around her unusual gank paths and, you guessed it, her stun.

Zoe Do I even need to explain this one?

Qiyana Then you have this. Someone decided that giving an assassin not just a stun, but an AoE stun that doesn't even have to hit you but a wall behind you. This is probably the most disgusting thing I've seen added to league in a while and 'overloaded' doesn't even scratch the surface.

All of these have CC that lasts long enough to make Morgana blush and they shouldn't. It just turns them into balance nightmares. There's a reason Zed , Talon , and Khazix haven't had nearly the issues these others have had. Sure they've had their spot in the limelight but they were much easier to balance and bring in line because of their mechanics. They don't get an auto-win stun. Especially in a meta where even tanks are getting nuked in seconds by these assassins, they should not have hard CC.

Give them a slow. Give them a silence. GIve them mobility. Don't get them stuns or roots.

9 Comments

Rewt8/26/2019, 5:19:57 AM5 votes

i mean..... i dont know how long you have been playing this game but kha was a nightmare for 3 seasons straight.

He went from a powerful assassin who if you didnt ward up everything was gonna kill your adc instantly. To a fucking Tank. Yes you heard me. a Tank. Who could 1 shot your adc. Back to an assassin who could 1 shot your adc. then into a machine gun Q Tank.

Yea he has had an interesting life.

his Q before his rework could do 1,400 to an iso target

DuskDaUmbreon8/26/2019, 6:00:36 AM2 votes

Ahri has always been in that middle ground between assassin and mage. She's both, and has always been both. Officially I believe she's classified as a "kite mage", the only remaining member of that class after LB was semi-reverted. As almost all mages (if not all mages) have hard CC, it'd be very strange for her to not have CC.

Zoe is a mage. She's not an assassin at all. She's a fucking artillery mage, which is nowhere near what an assassin is. She might have "mobility" on her R, but it's far from true mobility because she can't use it to actually get away, and the movement speed on her W hardly makes her an assassin either.

And Pyke was designed as a support. There's no viable support without some kind of hard CC.

BlackKnightJack8/26/2019, 7:16:04 AM2 votes

**Ahri - ** Since when is Ahri in pro play? I generally only follow e-sports during LCS season, but I've NEVER seen her picked or banned.

**Pyke - ** Pyke's damage is actually lower than you think. Seriously, go look at the damage done to champions in any game you see him. You'll see what I mean.

Zlera8/26/2019, 7:28:44 AM2 votes

I agree. Assassins shouldnt have hard cc, a slow... maybe... silence... maybe... Stun... absolutely not. Assassins deal 235% of your health as damage, if you get stunned while they do so, theres no counterplay, however, CC like Leblans E is okay in my opinion, you have to sit in her chain for a good second or two, same with Nocturne, you have to sit for 2 seconds for his 1.75 second fear. If the stun or root or fear has a tether or takes time to hit, im alright with it.

BigBellBrute8/26/2019, 7:43:07 AM2 votes

Not sure I've seen much Ahri play in pros if any. Yes Charm allows her to get off a lot of her kit. But unless you are behind, that's not going to kill you from full health.

TrueDamage Ninja8/26/2019, 6:20:45 AM1 votes

CAN WE TALK ABOUT FULL AP MALPHITE PLEASE?

BigBellBrute8/26/2019, 7:40:42 AM1 votes

Yeah. Don't give assassins anything to where they can uh you know actually play league of legends.