Isn't Karma just kind of a worse version of Lulu?

Ridley Prime··5 votes·620 views

Shield, speed-up, slowing skillshot, vision abilities, and they kinda fill the same roles. Major difference is that Lulu has a pretty impactful ult with a long cooldown while karma doesn't. Lulu also has an instant polymorph (compared to karma's tether snare, which also is shorter than the polymorph). Karma can sometimes have an aoe slow, and lulu can sometimes use pix to make hitting her slow easier.

I feel like Lulu just has more utility, especially after level 6. Their slows/nukes have almost identical numbers. Lulu can still be a big lane bully with her passive compared to karma sometimes getting her empowered q. She rarely gets the bonus aoe damage unless she w's them, ultimates, then hits her q, which ends up costing her a pretty big chunk of mana.

I guess my real question is why would players have a reason to pick up Karma over Lulu (or if you disagree that Lulu is better, since their pick and win rates are pretty close with Lulu being slightly better, Lulu over Karma). They just seem to fill very very similar roles and have really similar numbers.

3 Comments

The5lacker5 votes

Karma is sort of an in-between for Lulu and Lux. AoE damage and CC, strong shielding potential, rewarded for AAing the enemy for harassment, etc. Karma has the unique ability to speed up her ENTIRE team, however, and overall contributes more damage than the either of them.

As a support Karma has some of the most reliably potent harassment in the game and can keep her ADC relatively safe. As a mid laner, however, Karma brings the nukes of a mage with the team-wide CC and utility of a support. Take her mid, get Lich Bane and Nashor's Tooth, then some tanky items like Zhonya's, Abyssal Scepter, and Rylai's, and proceed to wreck face like some sort of tanky mage/fighter.

magic pole3 votes

mm I think karma can provide more supportive damage, while Lulu, like you said, provides more utility.

karma can become a secondary midlaner with lovely poke and damage if played well. I've had games on her where, because of my assist gold, my build is more advanced than our midlaner's (and i have sightstone) :}

I also think karma is better at kiting than Lulu.

aaronautumn2 votes

Karma has better ap ratios.

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