Is it against riots policy to have zed not 100 to 0 adc's before they can react?
Is it supposed to be ok he can half health me and his ult does over 1k damage and is literally impossible to survive without another champions ult?
Treeofwar2 votesQSS was a bit op vs zed when you would buy it and he did not have an ult against you but you could ult him
zacktootall1 votesso it is totaly ok for the person being ult by zed to not be able to say "no zed i would like to play today"
Treeofwar2 votesso it is totaly ok for the person being ult by zed to not be able to say "no zed i would like to play today"
but its ok for the adc to say sorry zed you dont get an ult for this game like the ult only does damage if you get hit after so idk flash,thresh lantern,cc zed all these options are there for you to stop the ult damage but with QSS no skill needed just press a button and bam zed is useless like why the hell play zed for his ability to get right to the adc and kill them with death mark if they just get rid of death mark instantly. You could play talon and do AOE burst damage that one shots the adc and you cant QSS that. They just nerfed zed so the QSS changes were needed
zacktootall2 votesyes but the only thing talons point and click does is move to target and do a small amount of damage while doing so. meanwhile zed if he ults he can easily get one auto attack on you before you get away leaving you with a delayed burst of unstoppable damage that while you may live from taking your most likely not going to be doing anything until you heal up all because of one ability, meanwhile talon uses most, if not all of his kit to have the same effect.
Treeofwar1 votesyes but the only thing talons point and click does is move to target and do a small amount of damage while doing so. meanwhile zed if he ults he can easily get one auto attack on you before you get away leaving you with a delayed burst of unstoppable damage that while you may live from taking your most likely not going to be doing anything until you heal up all because of one ability, meanwhile talon uses most, if not all of his kit to have the same effect.
but his kit is all AEO whilst zeds is one target and he has to hit his abilities talon can just ult around you and you will most likely get hit and zed does not just 1 auto to get that burst he has to use his whole kit to get his burst and now with the nerf to his Q damage you have to hit your shadows Q also which at times is not easy
zacktootall1 votesyou compared talon and zed first. secondly you have been lucky then because zed can very much do that i have been on the receiving end of that
Treeofwar1 votesyou compared talon and zed first. secondly you have been lucky then because zed can very much do that i have been on the receiving end of that
so you a assassin did its job in killing you wow yeah lets nerf zed and not let him do that but lets keep akali,leblanc,talon,katerina,rengar the way they are and let them blink on to you and one shot the adc they are called assassins for a reason it would be weird if they just did nothing and took forever to kill their target. CC beats zed, burst beats zed, armor beats zed all these things for you and many different abilities do beat zed out such as fizz E, kayle ult, zhonyas but you still complain and want to nerf zed more.
zacktootall1 votesthis thing you explained until it could be explained no more is known as the internet people want something to hate it is in their nature
and because of that they amount in mass so that they can drown out people like yourself who actually use reason to try but most often fail to fight back against sheer numbers.
me how ever call me what you will but i sit back and watch every once in a while i will get in there when i have a question or just need someone to give me something to read,
i am one of those who is on the fence about most subjects, the person that both sides to any subject but i am impassive about this stuff my mind will not be swayed one way or the other.
sorry for that bet of a rant but i don't know i just felt like it
and sorry for this strange set up of text i again just felt like it and yes i know my grammar isn't the best thank you
anyway back on topic my answer to you interesting reply is this: i thought we were only talking about zed i do not see why you bring every other champ into this is it because you have run out of other details to give on not having QSS effect his ult?
Treeofwar1 votesthis thing you explained until it could be explained no more is known as the internet people want something to hate it is in their nature
and because of that they amount in mass so that they can drown out people like yourself who actually use reason to try but most often fail to fight back against sheer numbers.
me how ever call me what you will but i sit back and watch every once in a while i will get in there when i have a question or just need someone to give me something to read,
i am one of those who is on the fence about most subjects, the person that both sides to any subject but i am impassive about this stuff my mind will not be swayed one way or the other.
sorry for that bet of a rant but i don't know i just felt like it
and sorry for this strange set up of text i again just felt like it and yes i know my grammar isn't the best thank you
anyway back on topic my answer to you interesting reply is this: i thought we were only talking about zed i do not see why you bring every other champ into this is it because you have run out of other details to give on not having QSS effect his ult?
you complained about zed being able to one shot and QSS should stop his ult but i just gave you other champs that one shot just as well but you cant QSS their ults so why should zeds be QSS you are just an adc main who QQs that an assassin that just happened to be zed killed you and got away
zacktootall1 votesoh now your heated attacking me instead of the ideals i chimed in on, how exciting. i will have you know that i am a top and (for now) mid main and tho i do admit that when i do go adc and see a zed i want to scream because i have to run until he is no longer a threat because i can't QSS anymore and would like to play the game. when at one point in the game i could do that i now "QQ" for that yes.
and again i would like to say that are talking about zed and not other champs here. and that we have come full circle in this chat.
Narvuntien1 votesI strongly believe they need to revert the changes.
Fizz fish, Trundle ulti, removing teemo poison and Malz visions are things we need answers to.
Once a Zed is fed, there is suddenly nothing you can do to protect your ADC. There are two answers ban Zed don't let him get fed. the first is common but there are patches with many OP champs and you let one through and the second is impossible because if you play safe he will just out farm you and get the items anyway.
The moment they made that changes Fizz, Zed and Trundle all became problems.
LU Vanilla Rice 1 votesTo make it short, Zed is very easy to counter. You can build GA, and that works splendidly! And while it may be hell for an adc to face Zed alone, in fights, a good support should almost always be able to shut down Zed in some way. Not having qss does weaken the adc's potential to outplay Zed, but it doesn't need to be reversed. As long as he is dealt with correctly, there is no need for a qss.
