Can we nerf kiting? (Melee vs Range Discussion)

The Soulforged··3 votes·845 views

There are too many ranged champions that have too much kiting in their kits (I'm looking at u Kalista). When a champion is ranged they should have weakness as most ranged champions have weaker defensive base stats, but what does this matter when the champion can kite away after you put so much effort into trying to catch up to them only for them to run away and kill you before you can touch them? The point of range is to allow a champion to attack without necessarily taking damage, as they will be in the back line, and being able to get up to them should be rewarded. It isn't just kiting that is a problem, but also that ranged champions aren't paying enough from their kits/base stats to have this huge utility bonus (range). Base stats need to have lower scaling in the late game to be a ranged champion, so they don't overpower the melee champs. They could possibly lower the stats gained from items for ranged champions. Melee champs need much more ms to keep up with the kiting and range of adc's if they choose to go for them. Range champions have so much in their kits to make up for it if they do not have any sort of kiting skill. Range champions receive no disadvantages in their kits for being ranged. The melee vs range problem has gone too far, and I hope we can fix this problem right now in the preseason (which I doubt) instead of waiting another whole year.

7 Comments

Hayaishi2 votes

Not every melee champion is meant to reach the back line and those who do have no problem doing it.

Imo the real problem is that the champions that are not meant to do that can't really function unless they're like gnar with massive CC, or Nasus (and even he has problems sometimes)

FalconPawwwwnch3 votes

Not every melee champion is meant to reach the back line and those who do have no problem doing it.

Imo the real problem is that the champions that are not meant to do that can't really function unless they're like gnar with massive CC, or Nasus (and even he has problems sometimes)

And not every ranged champion is meant to kite, only kiting champions are meant to kite.

To ranged champions have to kite in lane to win? No they don't. They can just sit back and cast spells/AAs all day. It's the melee champion that has to make a move and find a way to engage the ranged champion or the ranged champion wins the lane, or what happens is the ranged champion just kites the melee when he tries to get in range anyway.

The Soulforged1 votes

Not every melee champion is meant to reach the back line and those who do have no problem doing it.

Imo the real problem is that the champions that are not meant to do that can't really function unless they're like gnar with massive CC, or Nasus (and even he has problems sometimes)

And not every ranged champion is meant to kite, only kiting champions are meant to kite.

To ranged champions have to kite in lane to win? No they don't. They can just sit back and cast spells/AAs all day. It's the melee champion that has to make a move and find a way to engage the ranged champion or the ranged champion wins the lane, or what happens is the ranged champion just kites the melee when he tries to get in range anyway.

does this mean in a melee vs range lane where the melee is one of those unable to get to the back line the range champion should be able to kite in lane and they should never be allowed to touch them? :/

AetherKingdom2 votes

riot nerfing adc pick one

Dark Trennow1 votes

I don't think we will see big changes in the preseason, since this one is focusing more on the jungle. I really hope Riot finally nerfs ADC's and their itemization but I don't see it happening for some time, probably not well into 2015. But then they could give us another lame "too close to worlds" like in the nerf lee sin mega thread. Despite the fact that they had months before worlds, they did nothing. I expect that will remain the case with range vs melee.

DaedricTerror131 votes

Even when you finally fucking get in range, as soon as u are they can just walk away whilst you auto attack and as soon as you are out of that melee sweet spot its just kiting, even if they don't have a slow its IMPOSSIBLE to catch them.

The Soulforged1 votes

Why did you have to necro this D:.

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