Possible Udyr Compensations?

Mr Firm·Apr 10, 2016·3 votes·511 views

Udyr after these nerfs now has a 49.25% winrate, which is lower than mundo and aatrox jungle. Can we see a rework of Phoenix? get rid of the AP ratio and give it some sort of % health to compensate lack of AP ratio?

9 Comments

EndlessSorcererApr 10, 20162 votes

Honestly, 49% win rate is so close to 50% that I don't really see what the issue is.

He's obviously weaker than before (which was the point of nerfing him), but he is still quite viable when played correctly.

Also, people have finally stopped banning him every game so I can finally play him consistently again. Don't take this from me.

Honestly, I can still beat people to death with Devourer and Iceborn Gauntlet, so it really doesn't bother me.

Mr FirmApr 10, 20162 votes

I know, AS a Udyr main, i NEVER liked the RE build, i thought its toxic because hes unkiteable. Blue ezreal cant do anything about it. Which is pretty bad. They need to make his Phoenix not good with RE, the base damage nerfs were getting rid of the bonus damage he gained from that item

They might as well rework the spell itself.

EndlessSorcererApr 10, 20162 votes

I was never really a fan of the Runic Echoes build. I prefer the sustained damage from Devourer and I never really valued stacking too much MS on Udyr.

If I have Swiftness Boots with Alacrity and Deadman's Plate, I'm going to be extremely hard to pin down or chase anyways. If I have Iceborn Gauntlet on top of that, my opponents have very little chance to escape me. I don't really need to be stacking much more on top of that, aside from two MS Quints and the MS masteries.

I've never found kiting to be a major issue anyways. I'm typically split-pushing or flanking by the time it would become a factor, so I either have the jump on them or I can just back-off until they leave while my team takes stuff elsewhere.

Mr FirmApr 10, 20161 votes

I only did the build because it obviously worked, which sucks. the way i have always thought of udyr is hes either a AS/MS DPS tank with phoenix, or a snowball AD Monster with tiger, Runic makes him bursty and i HATE it. I miss the old builds before RE but theyre not nearly as strong as that dumb RE build, which is the sad reality of it.

I mean yeah you can go devourer and do work but meh!

Mr FirmApr 10, 20161 votes

also, yeah the nerfs weed out all the non udyr players. I just dont want that AP item to be meta like it is now