Can I get advice from some ADC players with good game knowledge

Solari Fortune·Apr 5, 2018·5 votes·634 views

Lately I been going even or even getting ahead in lane phase but then I look at the rest of the map and Mid Jungle and Top are all in double digit deaths or close to it. Which basically nullifies my lead because I can't do much when a fed assassin can nuke me before I can do anything, or a fed tank is impervious to all my damage.

So what am I suppose to do when I got a lead in bot but the rest of the team (outside my support) are 500 ton weights tied to my legs?

I know I not some god player and I have screwed up big time plenty of times but come on, why are you trying to 1v1 someone that is 4 levels up on you and has like 2 items to your half of one?

9 Comments

ArnoiApr 5, 20181 votes

If you and your lane are ahead, you can try warding their jg. Maybe even roaming mid to help out a bit.

Also depends on who you're playing and how you're building. Any good ADC can carry the game if they build right and can get peel in team fights from the supp etc. I've seen it time and time again. All lanes will do well. Except our bot lane. Then their 8-1 twitch ends up sneaking up on us in team fights and destroying us.

I would just advise you play Jhin. He is broken right now with rageblade. You can get up to 1000 AD in game with the right build. 2000+ crit dmg.

Solari FortuneApr 5, 20181 votes

my last game I was playing Jhin, went 4/0 in lane phase really early on I hit tab and our Zoe and Kayn are both like 1/6 and there is a Fed Syndra and Udyr running loose and each fight I got abandoned by my team leaving them to have free access to kill me because they were both constantly flanking to jump me the moment the fight started, plus farming was difficult as Zoe and Kayn were constantly going to waves I was already at and take a large amount of minions leading to me becoming gold starved in the mid game

Others games I have had team mates actually flash in order to steal farm away from me

UpDownLeftRightABApr 6, 20181 votes

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my last game I was playing Jhin, went 4/0 in lane phase really early on each fight I got abandoned by my team

And this makes it not your problem, it's just a lost game if that is how they think they should teamfight. I'd say try to encourage correct play, but that just leads to flaming and trolling.

An DraoiApr 5, 20181 votes

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If you and your lane are ahead, you can try warding their jg. Maybe even roaming mid to help out a bit.

Also depends on who you're playing and how you're building. Any good ADC can carry the game if they build right and can get peel in team fights from the supp etc. I've seen it time and time again. All lanes will do well. Except our bot lane. Then their 8-1 twitch ends up sneaking up on us in team fights and destroying us.

I would just advise you play Jhin. He is broken right now with rageblade. You can get up to 1000 AD in game with the right build. 2000+ crit dmg.

not worth it. as a jhin main, this interaction with rageblade is getting fixed and then jhin is going back into the trash can :( Jhin Jhin Jhin Jhin

Electro522Apr 5, 20181 votes

if you start to gain a lead in your lane, take the enemy's bot lane tower as quickly as possible. Doesn't matter if the rest of your team is behind or ahead, that tower is your main priority.

Once you have that tower down, start pressuring another, generally top if it hasn't been taken (if it has, then go mid). Once you have the first 3 outer towers down, you want to pressure the inner mid tower. Stay near your front line as much as possible, wherever they may be. Your damage is crucial to following up on any engage they can pull of (if any).

That mid inner is going to be the hardest turret to crack in the entire game, so, at times it may very well feel like an ARAM. Be sure to keep an eye on the side waves during this time. If you see a big wave piling up, go clear it, and push the wave past river, then head back mid.

Rinse and repeat until you're at their nexus.

Now.....if either your top or mid loses their inner tower before you can take down the enemy's bot outer.........you may just have to accept the loss. Coming back from that, even as the strongest role in the game, is next to impossible.

Modl Ryden lApr 5, 20181 votes

I've learned a few things when playing immobile marksmen suchs as Jhin Ashe or champs without dashes like Twitch Jinx Sivir

Take safer routes when routing the the jungle. Stay far back as possible in team fights even if it means being out of auto range just so you don't get blown up. In the long run when the fight is over, you're more valuable than their assassin as you help push lanes and towers which will ultimately decide the game.

However, of the listed champs I've given, Jhin Ashe Twitch Sivir Are great champs that don't require to be in auto attack range to contribute to a fight. They can all initiate fights with their ultis, giving tanks or fighters the confidence that they need to lock down and destroy their targets. You may not get a kill but you wills till net gold and and an assist. All while avoiding any confrontation with an assassin or mage.

Metal JannaApr 6, 20181 votes

Be aware that any time you start to win bot you'll get the enemy team's attention. So many four man ganks happen right after I get my ADC his first double of the match.

UpDownLeftRightABApr 6, 20181 votes

You have to tell your team to build tanky. If they do it, there is a chance their dead weight can become your wall and frontline so you are able to deal the damage necessary to win, AVOID 5v5's, look to pick the enemy team and take objectives. Bot tower -> Defend mid from enemy push if necessary -> take top tower -> rift herald -> mid tower. You will most likely not get any dragons till those towers are taken, but those give the gold your team needs to not be so heavy for you. AD assassin, I'd still say grab tabi's/GA After 2 item core to survive AD burst. Surviving AP burst is a bit trickier if your team lacks CC or shields, but you can get just hexdrinker and QSS with merc treds depending on CC, but you'll probably be selling the hexdrinker for a real item after your team can frontline for you and keep the mage away.

CrackStreamApr 7, 20181 votes

"So what am I suppose to do when I got a lead in bot but the rest of the team (outside my support) are 500 ton weights tied to my legs?"

Come up with 2-3 ideas while you are playing (Get creative its part of the fun)
Try one of the plans out.
Remember why the idea failed or why it worked (splitting on cait is dangerous, notes this mentally)
Apply the new found knowledge to the next game.

So many people want a "5 steps to victory" sort of guide but this will only promote autopilot and will make the game boring.

The issues is there is no set perfect decision that can be applied to every game.
There are some rules that work pretty consistently such as grouping if you are winning as a team.

Your problem (IMO) is you have too much focus on your teams short comings. This seems to disable your ability to come up with various game plans on your own. Or perhaps you aren't taking enough risks (trying new things)

League is more fun when you yourself come up with a strategy and it works.

Keep in mind though sometimes you will just hit mad losing streaks even in your elo. It happens.