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Wait. So reporting for leaving game/afk doesn't ACTUALLY do anything?

HumanPerfect··8 votes·11,049 views

I know I'm late to the party but...

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/10/red-post-collection-na-stability-update.html

In a reddit thread discussing the frustration of feeling AFK player reports are useless as AFK punishments are handled largely by the LeaverBuster system, Lyte stepped in to comment:

"This is partially true. AFKs/Leavers are handled by LeaverBuster, which is going to be upgraded soon to be more aggressive and have a more effective punishment.

However, AFK/Leaver reports do help us configure the systems and identify misses (leaves/afks that the system doesn't detect) and confirm positive hits (leaves/afks that the system punishes)."

When asked what happens if an ally falsely reports their teammates as being afk due to rage or something else, Lyte noted:

"Nothing. The system wouldn't detect the player as being AFK if he wasn't, so the reporters just lose weight in their reports."

I mean, I just had a game where a Gnar went afk at the 40 minute mark because the rest of our team wanted setup to contest baron and Gnar wanted to do Dragon, so he soloed Dragon while we pinged him off and went to Baron. He then openly admitted to AFKing because he got no help at dragon and said it was "worth the report".

I've seen multiple instances where people completely bypass the LeaveBuster by moving left and right while mashing their skills. Nobody else has a problem with this?

25 Comments

StealWolverine5 votes

Not sure how well you actually understood what was said. The afk report is exactly what you need to do in the case of the afk Gnar. As Lyte says the reports are used to indentify leavers that the system misses. it only does nothing if it is a false report.

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

It's confusing though.

However, AFK/Leaver reports do help us configure the systems and identify misses (leaves/afks that the system doesn't detect) ... The system wouldn't detect the player as being AFK if he wasn't, so the reporters just lose weight in their reports.

These seem to be mutually contradictory statements, as the one implies that reports are seen and used to calibrate LeaverBuster, and the other implies that reports are only seen if LeaverBuster flags a user. As long as someone clicking around fountain is tagged as AFK by LeaverBuster, I'm OK with that.

17inchcorkscrew1 votes

I think it fair to assume, from the quote provided, that reports of afk that are unmatched by leaverbuster are verified. If, indeed, an afk is not picked up, that data is useful for refining algorithms. If the report is truly false, the reporter's future reports will be held in lower regard.

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

ok that makes sense.

Humpelstilzche5 votes

You are assuming that the leaver buster can be tricked with things like walking around a bit. Thats not really true. The leaver buster uses more than the "does it move?"-data to recocgnize afk-players. Thats why the report is not really needed and why there is no harm done if you dont use the report.

BlazingSalvo4 votes

It's always nice to give Lyte and friends more data like he said. Confirming those games where a player gained no experience for 10 minutes or clicked around in base as Leaves, etc. to tighten his system.

BlazingSalvo5 votes

It should be noted that Leaverbuster also handles games in which players didn't actually get a Leave. For instance, if your "troll" sits in base clicking around so he doesn't get a "Leave." Oh he'll still get a Leave (or rather, leave points on his account) even if he didn't actually get a Leave in his match history.

And it's up to you, the reporter, to report him so that Lyte's algorithms can confirm that behavior (gaining no experience and being <1000 range from spawn for 10 minutes) to be Leaver behavior and confirmed positives.

COM1C3 votes

I find it extremely disturbing that people report me for saying in mostly aram games Report the Afker or report the feeder...YOU let this auto report behavior take place in a system filled with griefers and trolls whom YOU allow to report me due to I am saying report the AFKERS...I say undo my punishment and fix your report system....Your own forums is filled with people that don't actually care for the game...They say its Just aram who cares if afk...yet report me in aram for saying report the afker...This must stop....I have both account named LordMalzahar and Com1c and both account are banned from chat cause of you automatically punishing people based on a vote count...This is also bias due to premade games where buddies will say Hey he wants to report 1 of our afker friends so lets all report him....Its true and must be taken into perspective...Am I supposed to be quiet and not say hey....we have a afker . Not everyone notices afkers and should be alerted...Make a in game afker Alert that we can use only if person is idle for 1 min or disconnects....that way both teams can know...I have played this game for many years like 4 years and I think you guys at riot are very unfair.

Report on Defeat3 votes

Lyte does not understand the issues in this game or how to fix them.

CaesarFlickerman1 votes

There it EXACTLY is.

SecretAgentHulk1 votes

While I disagree, I find it hilarious that you made this comment with the name "Report on Defeat".

DaejinTye2 votes

Reporting for an single offense doesn't put them on stand for that offense, rather it works as a whole.

Reporting someone in general puts a negative mark on their account. Get enough marks and Riot reviews their account and history and sees if there is a need to punish the account.

Lately, they have had the system be largely automated with Lever Buster and w/e it is that assigns the chat restrictions. However, as long as you don't spam reports all the time, your reports do indeed leave negative marks on the account you report.

Jesus is Savior2 votes

Report for verbal abuse. Put "afk - read chat" in the box.

Raptamei1 votes

Report for verbal abuse. Put "afk - read chat" in the box.

Verbal abuse is also automated. It gives chat bans if you get too many of those.

Jesus is Savior2 votes

If they get reported enough to get escalated to a 2 week or permaban, Riot can read what you put in the box.

And does manually review it.

Rew7112 votes

Either way. My lag will force me out of the game. So I'm technically afk and I can't do anything about it.

ModUlanopo1 votes

If they left/went AFK, the system will catch them, so a report isn't necessary. If someone is being a jerk, it's best to report them for that.

The All Tomato1 votes

Report them for "Assisting Enemy Team" or "Negative Attitude" and write a note, I suppose.

Tallar1 votes

Yeah it seems all automated to me.

Drukyul1 votes

This is very good to know. Thanks for the PSA OP!

Caustic Crusader1 votes

There needs to be a new reporting category for botting that resembles AFKing. Though is was in Co-Op vs. AI, I've run into people who have bots that just run into the bottom corner of the map so the AI can kill them, and the only other thing they do is auto-attack as retaliation. It makes bot games where I just want my win of the day way longer than they should be, but hey, apparently that's totally allowed because LeaverBuster doesn't pick them up as not being there, so I'm the one who gets the legitimacy of my reports penalized, rather than having people who deliberately use third-party software for no reason other than making other people's games longer go without a single knock against them.

Salidfingers1 votes

All i hear from this thread is "my false AFK/Reports don't do anything, how can i punish someone that wasn't afk".

ZeniLord1 votes

i am starting a new tactics against riot and its stupid system ,,,,,, when someone start trash talk to me ingame .. i go afk instead of responding to punish him for his attitude . so guess it .. i guess is for the best to make no punishment for being afk*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

ZeniLord1 votes

because i am sick of responding to NOOBS and level 30 players who doesn't know what ap from ad in rank games....

fuknate1 votes

This shitty fucking game I get these trolls and everything feeding my lanes and when I say something to them I get FUCKIN BANNED. Small indie game fuck u and ur shitty people working for riot i hope all of u get cancer fucking idiots

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