Annie stun removal or reworked into a skillshot

Lord Macaroni··3 votes·1,018 views

With increasing popularity of Annie mid and since every other caster is now lacking a point-and-click hard CC, can Annie have her stun removed or nerfed on the same grounds of silence being removed from Kassa, LB, etc (lack of counterplay)? She could use a rework anyway since she's kind of boring to play - it's an opportunity to really highlight turning Tibbers into something better and more interactive.

11 Comments

disregardable4 votes

I like annie, and her stun has some pretty unique counterplay. It's only available every 4 spells, and you can clearly see whether or not she has it.

Direwolfiez2 votes

Not if they're smart it isn't. Most smart Annies will stop stacking her passive at 3 and save it for when people dive or get out of position so she can ult them.

SouL1ess1 votes

You can see the count on her passive.

Just because there's no visual indicator doesn't mean you cannot identify when Annie has her stun.

Direwolfiez1 votes

How many people regularly check how many stacks of her passive she has? Not saying it's not possible, but most people I've seen don't even think of doing that.

SouL1ess1 votes

I always do that if there is an Annie in my game, whether teammate or enemy...

It is crucial to know when does an Annie have, or possibly have, her stun up. I just left click her so I would have her portrait focused at any time she's in my vision.

Lord Macaroni2 votes

What's the difference between her and why mid laners got silence removed though? It's actually worse in terms of counterplay because at least you can run away if you're silenced.

Ryu the first1 votes

At least Annie doesn't 100-0 you without all of her skills, a lot of which have long cooldowns, unlike the mid laners who has silences

Seriphym Ablaze1 votes

I think Annie is fine. Considering most mid champs are assassins or characters that have dashes or escapes, it allows Annie a chance to get away if she is in trouble. As previously mentioned, you can visibly see if she has a stun up or not. And once her stun is popped, she is completely vulnerable.

Kuroi861 votes

Isn't Annie out ranged by most other APC? I mean, that's why Annie mid lost popularity in the first place isn't it?

Flaming June1 votes

Drink acid, nerd.

SdG Arkandt1 votes

If I may, as an Annie main, I believe you need to think the other way around: Annie needs 4 stacks to prime her stun. Past level 6, she has 4 spells. Hence, assume she ALWAYS has a stun available, except RIGHT AFTER SHE USED one. That vulnerability window is longer pre-6 or if she has Tibbers out.

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