Senna seems really cool!

MrEnds·Oct 30, 2019·3 votes·2,349 views

I love the gameplay and she seems like a fun and new type of support that kinda seems like she could be an adc?

15 Comments

Botulinum toxinOct 30, 20194 votes

She seems broken. First time I watched her kit in spotlights I laughed so hard that I sounded like the joker. She literally has everything that a champion can have. Her kit is overtuned as hell. I am going to check her scaling on pbe. If it is good enough then her banrate will be higher than the sky xd I hope her scaling is shit, so that she doesn't get banned 95% of the time. She looks fun, that is why I want her numbers to suck.

MrEndsOct 30, 20191 votes

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She seems broken. First time I watched her kit in spotlights I laughed so hard that I sounded like the joker. She literally has everything that a champion can have. Her kit is overtuned as hell. I am going to check her scaling on pbe. If it is good enough then her banrate will be higher than the sky xd I hope her scaling is shit, so that she doesn't get banned 95% of the time. She looks fun, that is why I want her numbers to suck.

if shes as broken as you say then i hope she gets nerfed but keeps that gameplay because it looks really fun and is a breathe of fresh air in terms of new champ design

Botulinum toxinOct 30, 20192 votes

breathe of fresh air - not really, her q is a better lucian's q, her e is a team akali's w, her w is just like morgana's but slower and takes time to activate and her R is just like lux's but with additional effects

however she might be fun, i tested her just now on pbe, she is beyond broken atm, since she can scale so well, definitelly can be played mid/supp and adc, might even work in jungle, since she heals out of ghouls that drop after a camp is killed

As for now she might be a lot too overtuned and will need a lot of nerfs. In 5v5 match her passive stacks so well that she might get stronger than her adc really fast even if that adc is fed.

ChaddyFantomeOct 30, 20191 votes

Her Q can only be cast on Allies from what I can tell. I dont see it being better than Lucian in that case.

ParoeOct 30, 20191 votes

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Her Q can only be cast on Allies from what I can tell. I dont ser ir beig better than Lucian in that case.

Its a skillshot isnt it? Not a targeted line shot?

Botulinum toxinOct 30, 20192 votes

Its targeted line shot. You point and click on enemy minions or champions. Range is quite .... huge. Just returned from PBE. She is quite fun tbh but broken as fuck.

Botulinum toxinOct 30, 20191 votes

No. Her Q can be cast on enemy minions and champions. It is just like Lucian's Q, just a little bit better. You can't cast it without enemy minions and champions tho, because it's point and click. I played her on PBE.

ChaddyFantomeNov 18, 20191 votes

yea i did as well. You are correct. Personally, i would change it to be ally cast only. would make her far more interesting. as it is, her Q is basically a better lucian Q.

MrEndsOct 30, 20191 votes

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breathe of fresh air - not really, her q is a better lucian's q, her e is a team akali's w, her w is just like morgana's but slower and takes time to activate and her R is just like lux's but with additional effects

however she might be fun, i tested her just now on pbe, she is beyond broken atm, since she can scale so well, definitelly can be played mid/supp and adc, might even work in jungle, since she heals out of ghouls that drop after a camp is killed

As for now she might be a lot too overtuned and will need a lot of nerfs. In 5v5 match her passive stacks so well that she might get stronger than her adc really fast even if that adc is fed.

its new style of support

Botulinum toxinOct 30, 20191 votes

Here I have to agree. In this regard she is new. Playing her on PBE I must say that she might work on mid/adc/support and maybe even jungle if played properly, since she heals from her passive. I am not entirely sure yet if she heals from it regardless of lifesteal that she has or if its connected.

ParoeOct 30, 20191 votes

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if shes as broken as you say then i hope she gets nerfed but keeps that gameplay because it looks really fun and is a breathe of fresh air in terms of new champ design

Shes a "support" in the artillery sense, honestly. They could EASILY drop her healing and shielding and just let those abilities apply lifesteal and rebrand her as a mid laner or soft label her a support in the same way Xerath is.

Her heal and shield is needless, and basically just there to say "shes a support gais!"

ChaddyFantomeOct 30, 20191 votes

Knockups? Dashes? Tankiness?

Botulinum toxinOct 30, 20191 votes

She has 100hp less than Cassio and her resistances are quite low, so she is squishy, but which adc or support isn't. She gets bonus movement speed from passive and e so she doesn't need dashes. Her invisibility can be moved around. She doesn't need knockups, since she has cc already on w and its aoe, so great for teamfights. I am not against her, I just played her on PBE and she really really needs nerfs. She is fun tho so if you like her, play her. You won't regret.

ChaddyFantomeNov 18, 20191 votes

if bonus movespeed was enough to not need dashes, Udyr would be top tier lol. Her wind up animation makes it so that all her movespeed is giving her is the ability to "kite", as opposed to actually keeping the DPS up as much as one would like.

Ive played her on PBE and i do think she needs nerfs. Get rid of the range, or make it a RFC proc type thing. remove the scaling. Nerf her W range and ffs, nerf the damage roughly everything lol.

asamuOct 30, 20193 votes

She's currently busted, and will probably just replace the ADC in the comp, because she pairs a lot better with characters that have a lot of CC and can peel for her than with another ranged character. putting her with alistar/thresh/leona would probably be way better than pairing her with someone like Lucian (who probably doesn't pair well at all with her tbh). She might pair well with soraka for some sort of sustain lane that can't get poked out, but a CC oriented character is probably better. Melee characters are going to be the easiest to make use of her heal with, and hard engage characters benefit the most from her E making them faster and untargetable at range; she'll be really good at setting up lane ganks with the jungler if the bushes aren't warded.

Getting 80 stacks on her passive is pretty easy (it can be done pre-20 min, though it'll probably be closer to 25-30 min to get that 80 stacks in most games), and that puts her at 60% crit and 700 range without any items. She scales hard with raw AD because of her passive and fairly high AD ratios, and doesn't need much, if any, lifesteal because of her Q heal AD ratio. She can solo baron with ~12% lifesteal, a bunch of lethality/armor pen items (which she also scales well with because she already has crit), and swiftness boots.

Her E's interaction with duskblade is also pretty crazy, since she can drop in and out of camouflage during the duration to proc it on every attack. I can't see her actually being played as support, since her kit works so much better paired with champions with hard CC, and she suffers from some of the same problems as most regular ADCs in fairly low mobility, limited CC, and being squishy.

Her ult is basically a global lux ult that also shields allies near the beam, but it does have a pretty long CD.

I'd be very surprised if she doesn't get nerfed quite a bit before the actual patch.