Petition to make Taliyah ult not get stopped by Yasuo Windwall

Iźuku Midoriya··203 votes·5,369 views

I get it, no one plays taliyah and hurr durr they are never going to nerf yasuo but why is this a thing. Why was the ult coded like this? The ult doesnt do damage nor cause any crazy threat to yasuo

104 Comments

CudyDarkyz32 votes

https://youtu.be/eLxcTFONWz0?t=16s

You can also help Yasuo kill your team!

Steelflame5 votes

That distinctly is a bug then that should be reported, because no ally applied CC should ever enable Yas (Blast Cone, Trundle Pillar, Anivia wall, ect)

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

Definitely unintended, but I don't think it's a bug. Strictly peaking. (Should still be reported.)

Yas ult was coded too work off any displacement, then self-displacements were changed to not count as airborne.

Since the displacement isn't coming from Ashe, it Probably still has the "airborne" tag. This should be tested with Anivia and Trundle for consistency.

Jet Sett12 votes

I like the enthusiastic "WA HOO!" she gives after sending Ashe to die.

Velzard of Koz8 votes

While I agree it's bullshit (well, Yasuo's windwall is bullshit on its own), I think it's because it still displaces Yasuo thus being a threat, since it applies crowd-control.

Supreme Senpai694 votes

To be completely honest I'm not sure if it's even intentional. My money is that it's just how the code is and changing the code would require resources that they don't want to spend on something as small as this. I mean yes this can be a big deal but how often does it happen? You'd have to have an ally Taliyah and an enemy Yasuo and she'd have to ult into his wind wall. It happens but I doubt it's on their to-do list

Velzard of Koz3 votes

To be completely honest even If it's unintentional, Riot doesn't have problem turning bugs (since they tend to refer to unintentional behaviour as bug) into "mechanics" :D

oSEXYPLATYPUSo15 votes

i wanna start a petition to stop all the petitions and psa about league

ModAcademy Kayn9 votes

i wanna start a petition to stop all the petitions and psa about league

Your petition is only a short term solution. Now this is long term.

Mira Arya Enthe13 votes

What is a Taliyah?

Fairyfleur8 votes

Taliyah

JVP152 votes

Nonono

That is a taillight; something you have on the back of your car.

You are thinking about a talon.

Boompenguins2 votes

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Nonono

That is a taillight; something you have on the back of your car.

You are thinking about a talon.

Nonono, that is a claw on a bird!

You are thinking about a tamale!

Karunamon2 votes

Nonono, that is a Mexican dish made with corn husks!

You actually were thinking about a tally.

Boompenguins1 votes

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Nonono, that is a Mexican dish made with corn husks!

You actually were thinking about a tally.

Nonoo, that's a score or amount, you're thinking of a Tablet.

Narasimha1 votes

Negative, that is a device most commonly associated with Androids.

I believe that 'tallyho' is what you meant to convey to others.

Boompenguins1 votes

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Negative, that is a device most commonly associated with Androids.

I believe that 'tallyho' is what you meant to convey to others.

False again, that's a british phrase originated from fox hunting. I think you mean table then if not tablet?

Taliyahc1 votes

Incorrect, a table is a piece of furniture

Perhaps you were referring to a teller?

Nautoday1 votes

I'm not sure how Taliyah just became the new Galio but I'm not complaining because tbh that's my favorite thing on the internet.

ZT Xperimentor7 votes

I know a few that would also ignore his fart by the logic that is common sense. AurelionSol Braum Illaoi Ivern Maokai Nami Nautilus Nocturne Orianna Poppy Sona Xerath I'll explain them if you have questions.

morris11 votes

Wait is Xerath's ult really blocked by windwall?

Junkο6 votes

It isn't, he is bullshit so hard with most of the champs he listed.

Illaoi, Ivern (I think?), Maokai, Naut, Nocturne, Ori, Poppy and Xerath all don't get stopped.

Not sure about ASol.

Civafu1 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ivern http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Maokai http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Nautilus http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Nocturne http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Orianna http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Poppy http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Xerath

According to wikia, here's the list of skills you mentioned that are blocked by Yasuo's wall according to wikia: -Ivern's Q -Maokai's Q and E -Nautilus's Q -Nocturne's Q -Orianna's Q -Poppy's ultimate -Xerath's E

All these skills mention "This ability is considered as a projectile for Unbreakable and Wind Wall" if you click on "Ability Details".

There's no mention on Illaoi's E if it's a projectile blocked by Braum's E and Yasuo's W, but I think Yasuo's wall would block it.

Junkο6 votes

I was talking about ultimates because he heavily implied he was talking about ultimates, especially because he said it makes no sense, even though for all the other spells it makes perfect sense (they are projectiles so they are blocked).

Civafu1 votes

Well he wrote that just below when someone asked if he was talking about the ult

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No but his stunning orb is, I think his arcanopulse is too but I'd have to check that one.

Boompenguins2 votes

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Well he wrote that just below when someone asked if he was talking about the ult

Arcanopulse is not, its similar to lux ult.

SoI invictus2 votes

And the sweet moment when Yasuo is about to die and he pops his windwall thinking it will save him then u Q him in the face with Xerath. Feelsgoodman

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

No but his stunning orb is, I think his arcanopulse is too but I'd have to check that one.

DarkRitual1 votes

Pulse should go through, since it doesn't have a travel time (like Lux ult, it shows where it will be and suddenly appears all at once).

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Agreed it should, I just don't remember if it does or not, besides it was a bolt of lightning.

Aeszarck3 votes

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Agreed it should, I just don't remember if it does or not, besides it was a bolt of lightning.

Arcanopulse goes through.

ModAcademy Kayn2 votes

What abilities ya talking in paticular?

PaladinNO7 votes

As a Nami player: ALL of her kit is cancelled out by Yasuo's Windwall. Q bubble. W heal splash. E enchanted basic attacks. R tidalwave.

"Balanced".

http://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/5526310+_e8ea5a1fc9d7820f068540878669dc8a.jpg

ZT Xperimentor3 votes

Auralionsol's Q, a miniature star deleted by a fart, really?

Braum's R, why does a gust of wind stop him from splitting the earth?

Illaoi's E, spectral grasp that's stopped by physical means?

Ivern's Daisy's shock-wave, waves of energy will go through ground & air alike regardless if they were moving beforehand.

Moakai's E, it's a pet entity, shouldn't it just drop at the wall then run through?

Nami's R, plenty of people have pointed this out in the past.

Nautilus' R, how does that even make sense to block this?

Nocturne's Q, it's a terrain effect, possibly extra-dimensional?

Orianna's Q, another pet entity right?

Poppy's R, more affected ground and shock-waves apparently blocked by a little air.

Sona's R, sound is a wave and will travel through air regardless if it's blowing or not.

Xerath's E, he's throwing lightning, if it can go through that much air, what's a little wind going to do to stop it?

abca986 votes

Can we just remove windwall and give him something that doesnt instantly leave the enemy mage absolutely useless?

HeimerLmao13 votes

You said to nerf him? YOU IDIOT! RUN BEFORE ALL THE YAS MAINS FIND YOU!

yay nibbers1 votes

Are you saying mages are incapable of moving or putting thought into their actions such that they can't get around a stationary wall...?

3TWarrior4 votes

it's not so much that his ability is avoidable...it's that it can ruin any setup in the game and shut down abilities far more valuable than it is for no cost other than cooldown

for instance, a team with yasuo against a team with miss fortune. Miss fortune has to wait for yasuo to die before she can pop her ultimate otherwise he can neutralize it and any hostile actions for its short time

Disulfiram2 votes

You would have a point if the wall only stopped skills after it is fully deployed. At the moment, it even stops skills that had just hit Yasuo even if it's cast the wrong way...

The Last Ballad5 votes

I disagree, purely because if they did that, then Braum would have no way of saving his adc from the wall himself. (that is, if they actually go for the hole in the wall, instead OF RUNNING INTO THE STILL WALLED OFF RIVER, AWAY FROM ME, THE SUPPORT!)

The ult doesnt do damage nor cause any crazy threat to yasuo

It isn't stopped because it does damage or is a threat, it is stopped because it is an effect, that has a travel time, that happens to leave a wall behind it. The fact that it has a travel time(and is not a unit) means it is a projectile, which is stopped by wind wall and unbreakable. They didn't rewrite the code to specifically exclude that interaction, because it would be more work for... is there even any payoff here? And look at it from the opposite end, if your change went though, would it fair that Taliyah should be able to construct a wall over half of the map without any way to counteract it? No, it wouldn't.

Not to mention, as far as lore goes, Yasuo trained Taliyah. Surely in the months he trained her, he learned a few tricks that allowed him to counteract her actions.

My Waifu Vanilla2 votes

Also.....how many times in the Taliyah vs Yasuo game is he going to be in a position TO windwall it? 1 in 50? If you are using your wall as Taliyah 99% of the time you aren't going to be shooting it through Yasuo to even get it windwalled.

AmazoX1 votes

That even if Yasuo Wind Wall had not blocked any of her abilities at all, Yasuo would still be the dominate force in a 1v1. Every mobile assassin beats Taliyah in a 1v1.

Stalinium3 votes

oh honey. Taliyah dumpsterfucks Yasuo. he essentially loses his E. unless, of course, he wants to almost instantly die. Probably among the most miserable matches possible

Cavesloth4 votes

Its way more bs that it blocks Sona and Namis ults.

3TWarrior2 votes

sona would make sense as the wind can and does deflect soundwaves but few winds are going to stop a tsunami unless he has the power to make like 150 mph or so winds XD

TheMinez2 votes

I believe that someone did the math at one point, and the friction of the wind's speed to stop a tsunami would cause the air to start on fire.

Basically the wind wall would be an almost 1-shot on squishies if it was fast enough to stop a tsunami.

Cavesloth2 votes

Sure but its kinda crap that an ability that has what a 18 sec cd can block one that has a cd 10 times longer than that.

SlampieceHawke4 votes

well it even causes draven to drop a spinning axe, his main dmg output. If riot is going to make a special change for the new champ wagon, then there are many other champs out there wanting the same treatment.

But yeah fuck his wall, it's got no business being up for so long after he uses it. At least champs like Braum are centered around doing that. And champs like sivir and nocturne have to time their spellshields just right in the heat of battle.

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

Stop the wall, but let Taliyah keep traveling. Inertia OP!

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