Playing Blitzcrank or Thresh is like being an NFL kicker.
No one even notices you are there. Until you miss an important pull.
No one even notices you are there. Until you miss an important pull.
I think that goes for most of anyone supporting. I don't think they get enough credit in general. 5 enemies mid, hook their carry and pull in, throw up The Box and get the hell out while your 4 other members clean up. Best feeling as Thresh lol.
I don't think they get enough credit in general.
Win the game, credit's due to the team.
Lose the game, it's the support or jungler's fault.
Gtfo with your begging of the support/jungle circlejerk to upvote your comment. People don't blame the junglers/supports solely because that's their role. People blame people equally, but supports are like "omg im help team i ward hue hue u cant blame me" and junglers are like "omg i dont need 2 gank i dont need to pressure i dont need to do anything" Everyone gets blamed, supports and jungles are just the most bitchy about it.
It's okay my young one, your anus will recover from the sour losses of your past.
Pls, i main support. I just understand that sometimes I am to blame, instead of saying " oh no my game play is fucking perfect it's everyone else's fault"
This all escalated so quickly since I left.
Except he is right. I've seen a feeding mid get blamed for the fed Akali as much as I've seen any other role get blamed. Supports and junglers are just the whiniest about it.
Ouch, someone needs to watch their sodium intake.
But I digress, I was just pointing out a general fallacious accusation that floats around at my elo, because you're right, everyone should share the blame if they want to play that game.
/gtfo's
Says the same thing as me in a way that the general league population doesn't understand, gets upvotes because they think you're bashing me.
Gtfo with your begging of the support/jungle circlejerk to upvote your comment. People don't blame the junglers/supports solely because that's their role. People blame people equally, but supports are like "omg im help team i ward hue hue u cant blame me" and junglers are like "omg i dont need 2 gank i dont need to pressure i dont need to do anything" Everyone gets blamed, supports and jungles are just the most bitchy about it.
I like this guy getting tons of downvotes when he's right.
I'm sick and tired of every jungler playing victim. Support is one thing, but seriously, if you're a bad jungler YOU'RE A BAD JUNGLER. I've had so many idiot junglers lose us the game with 0 pressure and just go "na uh, I'm good, you lost not me, always blame jungler wow!" No, sometimes you can blame jungler, because sometimes its their damn fault.
If the enemy jungler has come bot lane 5 damn times to gank me, and you're just running around inside our own jungle farming instead of A. Counter Jungling B. Pressuring another lane. C. Counterganking my lane YOU ARE NOT A GOOD JUNGLER. YOU ARE LETTING YOUR TEAM DOWN. Yes, I know its not your job to win any-ones lane, but if the game is 4v5 you aren't helping anyone.
Gtfo with your begging of the support/jungle circlejerk to upvote your comment. People don't blame the junglers/supports solely because that's their role. People blame people equally, but supports are like "omg im help team i ward hue hue u cant blame me" and junglers are like "omg i dont need 2 gank i dont need to pressure i dont need to do anything" Everyone gets blamed, supports and jungles are just the most bitchy about it.
I disagree with you. I do agree that if you're playing at a certain level of play, people won't blame each other in general. By level I mean skill level (gold, plat, etc...). Anyways, I do feel that support/jungler get blamed more often then not mainly because of the individuals mindset and/or the role that they are needed to fill. It is easy to blame the mid/top who goes 0/4 and feed their counterpart. This is easily visible.
For support, what they do is more subtle and isn't as visible. For bot lane, it is basically the support who sets the tempo for the lane. They help create or alleviate the pressure in lane for their ADC. The ADC relies on the support to basically carry/babysit them until they out of laning phase, so if you don't do this for them, they will complain. Losing as a support in a 2v2 basically means you lost it for you AND someone else, which is why there is a voice since someone else was directly affected.
For jungle, if you are just AFK farming the whole game when the opposing jungler is constantly ganking all his/her lanes, you aren't fulfilling your job. It doesn't really make sense to me that they have fun just AFK killing monsters in the jungle and make no appearance anywhere outside of their own side of the map. Most just kill their camps and then blame YOU(whatever role you are) for losing THEM the game because you couldn't handle what was essentially a 4v5, so it makes it very easy for people to have a negative view of the jungler. Also, as the jungler has the most impact early on in the game, their good/bad plays will have a LARGE impact on how things will play out for their lanes. If they get that early kill, it snowballs that lane ahead. If they end up dying and giving the opposing laner double buff AND the XP/Gold advantage, well it just turned into hell mode for your laner. A good jungler can easily super carry his team to victory, but an incredibly BAD one can easily screw his team into basically playing a 4v5 or even a 4v6 depending on how poorly s/he performs.
and then you play Thresh as the ADC and people notice your existence. for best results, take Blitzcrank as your support.
10/10 would climb ez pz
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As a Viktor player I love all good supports. Vik probably has the highest nearly instant burst in the game at 680 + 225% AP with his EQ combo, IFF he can land his spells. A good thresh, blitz, nami, etc. can get me fed so fast it is unreal. At the end of the game I may have 20+ kills and have dealt well over twice the damage of anyone else in the game, but it was the support who got me there, and I always make it a point to express my gratitude when that happens. Sometimes in pre-game chat I will have supports ask who they should go, I'll say who I'd prefer and have someone in the game say something along the lines of "he wasn't asking you dumbass". What they don't recognize, is that while I obviously won't be working much with the support for the first 15 minutes of the game, as a champ who's sole job is to shit damage, the support in question can make or break the mid-late game.
I would also like to remind supports that unless they have gotten their ADC incredibly fed in lane, I as the mid laner do far more damage than the ADC at that point in the game and with a little help can snowball wildly out of control. If you land a hook, stun, or any other major disable on any squishy out of position, I can kill them instantly with a full burst, and with just a few kills grow strong enough to nuke them with a quick EQ.
LOL AT THIS +1
because being a support or a jungler is the worst thing ever ppl do their sht and whatever they want but they demand of you to fix all their mistakes he went into a random bush and got killed like a noob ? why didnt support ward it he pushes and feeds? why isnt my jungler ganking when enemy does it ?
thats a problem because those 2 roles have the word help as their main goal, and ppl think they will come to fix every problem they could have
my friend is the same he likes to play top, he picks a lane bully, then he pushes and bullies the enemy ... gets ganked 5 times, and gets mad