Stop Doom and Gloom over Mana

MudintheWater··3 votes·362 views

Look, I know we all love mana pots. I have been doom and gloom over them all week - I use more mana pots than most people if you check my game builds.

However, I don't find it as big a deal anymore. Which is to say:

I actually looked through the new masteries

Shocking, I know.

Here's the breakdown:

You can put 18 points in offense and 12 in utility (something many mages already do with 21 0 9) and get all the benefits of an offense tree AND 1.5% missing mana restored.

In season 5 you had to go full utility tree to access meditation

In season 6 you can have the passive from Athene's completely free. On top of that, you either have mana regen buffs or mana pool buffs. That's a big deal.

Let's use Morgana as an example, since I really only care about her anyways.

Base mana: 340 +60/lvl Regen: 1.2/s (1.7/s next season)

Value of potion: 100mana/15s=6.667mana/s

We can estimate where the new mastery and buffs will benefit Morgana more than potions fairly easily - just see where the buff and mana restore fits.

Starting at level 3 because if you're running out of mana before then you're just going to need to stop spamming spells:

Mana regen from masteries and buff if morgana has no mana: 7.4 + base, more than 6.66 already.

Wow! We can already beat mana pot regen at level 3 if we have no mana!

That was easy.

If Morgana is missing 406 or more mana, the new mastery tree will provide comparable regen to a potion. Now, unfortunately that will be a diminishing return, but at level 10 Morgana can have more than half of her mana pool available while regening faster than if she was spamming potions.

Caveat: Precoffee math may be wrong.

So don't worry about mana. Use 18/12/0 and mana will be fine.

5 Comments

disregardable2 votes

This of course is before they nerf mana in the following 3 patches.

Ionian1 votes

The problem is not item 2004. The problem is the removal of item 2041 which is an extremely important starting item for mana mids with bad early games such as Ahri ... I find myself starting with item 2041 a LOT more often compared to item 1056 and this will make many lanes nearly impossible.

Rossendale2 votes

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The problem is not item 2004. The problem is the removal of item 2041 which is an extremely important starting item for mana mids with bad early games such as Ahri ... I find myself starting with item 2041 a LOT more often compared to item 1056 and this will make many lanes nearly impossible.

They're putting in an item that you can buy with your starting gold that literally acts like item 2041 except for it adds some DoT damage thing to your spells/autos.

Meep Man1 votes

Corrupting Potion is a pretty dang good replacement since it heals for more and gives nearly as much mana. Plus, masteries make it easier to have more mana as well.

Ionian1 votes

well i should probably go read about the new items

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