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I can't keep calm anymore. Midlane is infected with assasins and immobile mages suffer the most.

VG Crows·6/26/2018, 7:20:53 PM·62 votes·13,642 views

I'm a Diamond 3 midlane player. I play immobile mages.

Want a fun fact about what is going on in ranked ladder? If you pick/play ANYTHING but assasins or assassin-y like champions Zoe Irelia prepare to get slaughtered in lane and out of your lane as well. Damage is so high these days that having as low amounts of escape as only a single summoner 4 and a piece of shit "defense"item 3191 means death sentence.

Immobiles are mostly about DPS and DPS SUCKS AF right now. The game is about burst burst burst 100-0 flashy LС$ playzzz.

Because of huge amounts of burst damage ,you have to play from their mistakes and actions since if you yourself try being proactive in these lanes you either get fucked by them more anyway or get ganked and have to sit under turret flashless hoping your mobile opponent doesn't abuse you. Or, what's even worse, goes roaming. Which you can't follow at all or you will die.

Here are some issues that (unfortunately...) make immobile mage class poor choice for today's standards:

  • Riot nerfed everything about Sorcery tree as well as waveclear (though, somewhat justified) and mana regen/mana pool

  • Mages get no compenastion buffs

  • The compensation buffs to assassins were absolutely unnecessary (who the ** F** thought this was a good idea?)

  • Ignite buff

  • A streak of 3-patches-in-a-row Zed buffs...

  • LeBlanc revert.

  • Constant addition of even more damage and mobility to the game as well as ways to avoid damage (untargetability/invincibility/invisibility etc.)

  • Tanks being almost nonexistant which makes mages rely on themselves for peel and defense even more

  • Adding to the previous point, everyone picks mostly squishy (not bruisers) champions which basically means you don't have frontlane at all

  • Low amount of variance in AP itemisation ESPECIALLY when it comes to building defense

  • Outdated/poor variance in decision making kits cannot keep up with all the modern BS that is mobility creep

  • These and many other factors made it so assasins are now dominating midlane.

And honestly, it doesn't get any better. It won't get any better. Riot hates mages and non-interactive gameplay. Which in turn is caused by the insane amounts of damage assassins posess nowadays. It FORCES you into uninteractivity. Try anything else, you get destroyed.

Please make immobile mage class viable again.

100 Comments

ALL MłGHT6/27/2018, 2:25:19 AM19 votes

You forgot tear -> Seraphs nerfs and how Rod hasn't been touched in ages but Duskblade gets tweaks every few patches

Malak6/27/2018, 1:14:41 AM15 votes

I hate when people complain about balance but this is pretty much true.

There's a few mages that are OP but they usually have some sort of BS that makes them that way (vlad with pool escapes, lack of mana, infinite sustain) which really doesn't represent mages in general.

Akali is SO HOT6/26/2018, 10:19:38 PM11 votes

The only Assassin with super good stats right now is Talon. Zed and Fizz both have average winrates with respectable pickrates and all other Assassins are below 50% aside from Akali who has an inflated winrate from her extremely low pickrate. Just because you are seeing a lot of Assassins doesn't mean they're dominating.

mzicio6/27/2018, 9:50:36 AM9 votes

It's fun that you have 19 upvotes but if I even ONLY MENTION Zed being unfun to play against everybody flips their shit

Mordepool6/26/2018, 9:38:22 PM7 votes

I would love it if Buying defenses against bullshit like Zoe actually cut her damage by enough to survive

Blåbæret6/26/2018, 10:10:19 PM6 votes

Riot has been systematically working to nerf makes into their current garbage state. There's no reason to believe this will change. Mages have been unplayable for a good while now and the balance team prefers it that way.

VełKoz Bot6/27/2018, 10:43:43 AM5 votes

They just make it so hard. So much mobility in newer champions, and the items assassins build are just so much better. It feels so bad having to build item 3102 / item 3157 every single game while the other team is getting item 3145 / item 3147 . God forbid they buy item 3155 in lane.

And your one defense against assassins, wards? Yeah they get to destroy those for free in ONE hit with item 3147 . Why do I even bother placing them?

KronosXVIIII6/27/2018, 7:53:09 AM5 votes

For me it’s the nonexistence of outplay that bothers me, it doesn’t matter how much planning or nonsense you do, if zed presses r and ignite that’s a kill, and now he’s sprinting to botlane, and if you so much as ward, you’re getting raped by invisible oneshotting champions, and now 10 min later you’re leaning against a 12/0 zed who flashes, presses r, slams his keyboard, misses every q, hits a single e and then flashes his mastery as you get 100-0’d

chipndip16/27/2018, 12:04:38 AM4 votes

Assassin-y champs like Zoe the immobile burst mage.

Eye Of Terror6/27/2018, 3:58:48 AM4 votes

Infected is nicely said. I would said it is plagued.

Ichi Exorz6/27/2018, 12:21:55 PM3 votes

Even though I personally don't have a hhuge problem playing against assassins it does get a bit annoying. I literally had a few games liek this (normal games): -Yasuo, Fizz, Zed & Katarina were banned. Enemy midlander picks Talon.

  • Fizz, Zed, Katarina & Talon were banned. Enemy midlander pciks Yasuo. -Fizz, Zed & Yasuo are banned. Enemy midlaner picks Katarina.

Like I said, I have no more problems laning against them compared to mages or anything else but it just makes me facepalm that every single time some edgelord just needs to play an assassin.

TyroneWatermelon6/27/2018, 10:16:37 PM2 votes

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SO MUCH FREE DAMAGE FOR CHAMPS THAT DON'T DESERVE IT

ChaddyFantome6/26/2018, 10:42:36 PM2 votes

What makes Zoe Assassin'y?

TheSingularity6/27/2018, 1:09:38 AM2 votes

To be honest, try itemising defensively. And no, not item 3157 item 3151 item 3116

Vsing an AD assassin? get a item 3742 and item 3047 Dealing with zoe and lb? item 3065 item 3111

Yes it delays your damage. BUT IT STOPS YOU FROM FEEDING! If they don't get fed, you outscale sooner. Once you have a full build, sell these items for more damage!

Yes it's sub optimal. But y'know what else is? Going 0/10 in lane then sooking you get popped when you have nothing to stop the popping

Nevrankroaton6/27/2018, 7:07:57 AM2 votes

So TL:DR

Assassin are buff too much/are relevant (because it is also about that,y ou can talk about duskblade, zed buff, etc, the fact is that there was a problem for them. I was glad they weren't meta, but I understand it)

Waveclear being finally controlled to be tuned down a bit (needed).

Meta being a meta in which mages are being weak (happen).

Also, ADC being weaker on bot lane but bruisers gaining traction and bruisers also sh*t on mages.

Yeah, it is just the current meta. But Orianna received an insane buff so enjoy it.

TekkenPlayer6/27/2018, 9:53:01 AM2 votes

inb4 onslaught of downvotes

Lux : simply stop giving CD buffs and things to help lux support. Make passive scale better since she doesn't actually spike off of a single core item anymore

Azir : rework, the triple soldier attack speed buff is complete a joke of a tool you'll seldom ever use

Corki : Give better sustained damage on the package and E instead of revert him back to the R auto and someone dies variation

Fiddlesticks : allow ult channel during W

Karma : change passive

Lissandra : give her an actual passive like a empowered ability + MS buff after a few stacks of casting

Malzahar : make AD malzahar great again

Viktor : Allow him to get his HEXCORE while in lane. Reduce hexcore cost

Ziggs : Make W have a larger knockback

Velkoz : Make W have a grounded effect

Xerath : Have ult deal more damage with each consecutive hit

mack91126/27/2018, 8:16:24 PM2 votes

I think immobile mages should transition to bot lane and play as a apc with a support as they suffer the same downside of a conventional adc where they suffer when alone. As well playing an immobile mage with a support that has a reliable cc is actually amazing. Apc bot velkoz is so much fun and actually performs well. Sololane champions need escapes .

Nausicäa 6/27/2018, 10:06:18 PM2 votes

Nah dont worry bro, Riot is gonna nerf a handful of mages which somehow in their mind solves the problem of too much burst.

big boi edri6/27/2018, 2:57:45 PM2 votes

Immobile mages won't be meta again until tanks are meta again. You can make all the changes you want, but unless you push them into the OP side of things, they'll stay where they're at until tanks come back.

shoe65356/27/2018, 4:40:30 AM1 votes

thats why you have a 60% winrate

Dubledox6/26/2018, 11:57:20 PM1 votes

If you can’t beat em, join em.