I keep asking what can I do about constantly getting grouped with teammates who fight and argue and what I can do about getting out of Bronze level 5? And I constantly get no answer. So, I see what this forum is about. Not answering questions and looking down on new players!
Edge of Daybreak3 votesFirst thing's first. You need to realize that you are doing a lot of things wrong, drop the dunning krugger. You know how anyone can tell this? you are in bronze 5. To be in bronze 5 then you have mechanical issues, game knowledge issues, and I hope not for this one but you probably rage at people when it gives you 0 benefits.
First thing's first you could to compare your play to people in higher elos and see where you are weak and try to fix that. You can get pretty far off of just mimicing what good players do. Hell ive gotten to G5 every season but s2 which is when i started league and let me tell you i only do a few things. I never rage at anyone. Dont even call out mistakes. It is pointless. Next play safe or go balls deep don't half ass things. If you already have a comfort pick then stick to it and become the best player of X champion you can. Playing meta picks is pointless if you can't do it.
Bronze is like the holy grail of carrying out of. Ive taken 2 separate people out of bronze 5 and i didn't even have to remotely try. Why? assassins. Fall in love with things that can pick someone out and kill them. Become a jungler and you have a lot more control.
Work on your Csing! you can win a lot of lanes without even needing a kill if you just farm up and play safe. Especially if you pick a champion that scales well/better than the opponents.
Oh feel I should directly answer that question in the OP. There is literally no answer to matchmaker. That's why everyone says to carry yourself. You wont win 100% of games but over half your games are winnable even if only you are fed thats how easy bronze 5 is.
Lyless1 votesFirst thing's first. You need to realize that you are doing a lot of things wrong, drop the dunning krugger. You know how anyone can tell this? you are in bronze 5. To be in bronze 5 then you have mechanical issues, game knowledge issues, and I hope not for this one but you probably rage at people when it gives you 0 benefits.
First thing's first you could to compare your play to people in higher elos and see where you are weak and try to fix that. You can get pretty far off of just mimicing what good players do. Hell ive gotten to G5 every season but s2 which is when i started league and let me tell you i only do a few things. I never rage at anyone. Dont even call out mistakes. It is pointless. Next play safe or go balls deep don't half ass things. If you already have a comfort pick then stick to it and become the best player of X champion you can. Playing meta picks is pointless if you can't do it.
Bronze is like the holy grail of carrying out of. Ive taken 2 separate people out of bronze 5 and i didn't even have to remotely try. Why? assassins. Fall in love with things that can pick someone out and kill them. Become a jungler and you have a lot more control.
Work on your Csing! you can win a lot of lanes without even needing a kill if you just farm up and play safe. Especially if you pick a champion that scales well/better than the opponents.
Oh feel I should directly answer that question in the OP. There is literally no answer to matchmaker. That's why everyone says to carry yourself. You wont win 100% of games but over half your games are winnable even if only you are fed thats how easy bronze 5 is.
Well you are completely wrong. I rarely rage at anyone. What the hell is dunning krugger??? I don't have any issues. I main noc who is a jungler and I hold up my end. You fail to realize if I have bot players who feed it doesn't matter how good I am. I will lose. So, stop blaming me, because that's the easy way out. I will be in level 5 bronze forever because of afks, bad teammates and feeding.
Edge of Daybreak2 votesWell you are completely wrong. I rarely rage at anyone. What the hell is dunning krugger??? I don't have any issues. I main noc who is a jungler and I hold up my end. You fail to realize if I have bot players who feed it doesn't matter how good I am. I will lose. So, stop blaming me, because that's the easy way out. I will be in level 5 bronze forever because of afks, bad teammates and feeding.
Dunning krugger in this case is shown by your belief that you have no issues. If your teams are dragging you down why are other players capable of getting out of bronze 5 when subject to the same things. Or do you believe that out of millions you are the only one going through this?
Lyless1 votesDunning krugger in this case is shown by your belief that you have no issues. If your teams are dragging you down why are other players capable of getting out of bronze 5 when subject to the same things. Or do you believe that out of millions you are the only one going through this?
Maybe they have better luck with getting teammates.
McAllister1 votesMaybe people stopped helping you because you took the most helpful response I can even conceive of to your vague, generic problem and shat all over it. You're beyond help.
Lyless1 votesMaybe people stopped helping you because you took the most helpful response I can even conceive of to your vague, generic problem and shat all over it. You're beyond help.
Typical response from a LOL player. That response was in no way helpful.
McAllister1 votesNo, MY response was unhelpful. TaIont's response had lots of useful information.
Lyless1 votesMaybe people stopped helping you because you took the most helpful response I can even conceive of to your vague, generic problem and shat all over it. You're beyond help.
And how is my problem vague? The guys told me to use player I am either not good with or have intrest in playing with. That doesn't help me at all.
McAllister1 votesInformation we have from you:
Helpful information TaIont gave you:
Which is about 9 more useful things than I would have to say. Goodness, the more I argue with you about this, the more I think that guy is a saint for even trying.
EkkoFroffles3 votesYour attitude is not one that lends itself to improvement. If you lay 100% of the blame on your "idiot teammates," and think you're unimpeachable, then what advice do you want us to give you? Do you think we're all using some hack that matches us with Challengers to beat up on those lowly Bronzes? No, we have to play with the same crap teammates and either we play well enough to carry their dead-weight or we get nowhere. Simple as that. If you can't accept that, then there's no point in saying anything further.
magic pole1 votesexactly.
now I'm almost plat, and low golds who would have absolutely destroyed the old me (when i was silver), are the new trash players holding me back. Differece between OP and people that steadily gain elo, is they work to improve themselves and DONT BLAME OTHERS. their individual skill eventually improves enough to a level where they can consistently tip the scales in their team's favor (if their skill does not FAR exceed the players in the game, they will do this by amassing tiny advantages). eventually, you can do this consistently enough where you can win more games than lose and thus climb.
TheI3igDaddy2 votesTroll thread 0/10.
magic pole1 votesyeah...i feel ashamed i gave a thoughtful answer :/
then i see his name is "Lyless" ...Lie less, get it ? ROFLAMSFKBBQQ
OP gets off on wasting peoples' time. life is absurd isn't it?
MigYalle1 votesWell I started this season Bronze V, Went on a long win streak (I think 22 wins?) and got into Bronze 3, then it got a little tougher, now i'm stuck at Bronze 1 with 8n failed silver promos. I got out of Bronze V by playing the champions I LIKED and were EXPERIENCED with. So, Rengar, Kha, Talon, Fizz, Except I played them all JUNGLE. It's just the way I got used to palying the champions, But with the meta shift over to Tanks, I find it hard to be an Assassin main right now, What I would suggest for you is to find out which champion you like that counters the meta, (For example if you like AND CAN PLAY Vayne, Learn her even more, Queue up for ranked, and play her TOP or ADC, But not MID/SUpport/Jungle. Only reason she can Top is if they have a low dps, high health tank.) Start looking at other roles you can take your champion into. If you like Twitch, Take him ADC, go bottom, hit level 6, and when you go back to base, instead of going back to base, go to mid lanes bush, Q to invisble and gank their lane. Start doing things you don't normally do. I used to play Talon mid, but the LeBlanc, Katarina, and Kassadin abuse was too much for me to take in lane, I tried jungling him in a custom game where a friend gave me a leash, and I liked it. My only problem now is people think i'm trolling. lol That's my only advice. If you get deseprate, Try skill-capped.com
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Silver rose,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ANEpKBZ2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-06-23T02:35:06.788+0000)
Well I started this season Bronze V, Went on a long win streak (I think 22 wins?) and got into Bronze 3, then it got a little tougher, now i'm stuck at Bronze 1 with 8n failed silver promos. I got out of Bronze V by playing the champions I LIKED and were EXPERIENCED with. So, Rengar, Kha, Talon, Fizz, Except I played them all JUNGLE. It's just the way I got used to palying the champions, But with the meta shift over to Tanks, I find it hard to be an Assassin main right now, What I would suggest for you is to find out which champion you like that counters the meta, (For example if you like AND CAN PLAY Vayne, Learn her even more, Queue up for ranked, and play her TOP or ADC, But not MID/SUpport/Jungle. Only reason she can Top is if they have a low dps, high health tank.) Start looking at other roles you can take your champion into. If you like Twitch, Take him ADC, go bottom, hit level 6, and when you go back to base, instead of going back to base, go to mid lanes bush, Q to invisble and gank their lane. Start doing things you don't normally do. I used to play Talon mid, but the LeBlanc, Katarina, and Kassadin abuse was too much for me to take in lane, I tried jungling him in a custom game where a friend gave me a leash, and I liked it. My only problem now is people think i'm trolling. lol That's my only advice. If you get deseprate, Try skill-capped.com
You also asking me to use champs I don't like. I don't like Vayne or Talon. Fizz is a cheap champ. Rengar is not my type of champ. Same goes for Twitch.
Cavemantero1 votesyou want to get out of Bronze 5? Honestly? Stop playing ranked. You will be much happier and will improve much faster. GL next season.
Lyless1 votesI don't think you get, that I am not the problem. It's my idot teammates that are the problem, they feed and no matter who I pick, I am out leveled. This isn't a problem with me. See that the problem with this site always trying to blame the poster instead of the teammates/feeders!
Wînter Fox4 votesI am not the problem.
Said everyone in every rank ever.
Lyless1 votesSaid everyone in every rank ever.
This is why you guys are useless. Do you honestly think that 1 champ can make up for 4 bad players that feed. It wouldn't matter how good I am. I would lost every time.
magic pole1 votes"It wouldn't matter how good I am. I would lost every time."
honestly that attitude is probably a big part of why ur stuck :/
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=magic pole,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ANEpKBZ2,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2015-06-23T03:22:23.061+0000)
"It wouldn't matter how good I am. I would lost every time."
honestly that attitude is probably a big part of why ur stuck :/
So, I should lie to myself and say I can go 1 vs 5 and beat them all? Is that what you are saying? That makes no sense at all. And once again people like you are the reason I am in this mess to begin with.
magic pole1 votes"And once again people like you are the reason I am in this mess to begin with."
you're either trolling or seriously confused. best piece of advice i can give you is to stop blaming others for your shortcomings. this applies to real life outside of league as well, and would still probably be one of the best and most basic pieces of knowledge which would benefit you greatly if you can learn and live it.
and nah, some games are straight up unwinnable. even if you were Bjergsen or any challenger, you still couldn't possibly win every single game in bronze 5. But they'd win the vast majority of games at that elo.
if your skill level is truly above where you are ranked, you will soon consistently win lane and continue to make moves that sway the game in your team's favor. the better you are, the more you can abuse your enemies' mistakes (and bronze is littered with mistakes) and create advantage after advantage which eventually result in an unwinnable game for your enemies. Even if your team is complete trash, the way to win will soon become obvious to them, and they will think , "I'm so good, I won this game," when in reality, your turning your enemies' mistakes to your advantage time and time again will have laid the groundwork for the easy win.
honestly though, from your response, it's obvious you take little responsibility for your shortcomings and consequently you belong in bronze. you're too quick to blame others (everyone in bronze is really bad at this game (relative to those in higher elos)) rather than focusing on and fixing your own mistakes.
tl;dr: stop focusing on others and their imperfections. Focus on and work to improve your game and reduce your mistakes. if you actually do this, you will realize how many mistakes players in bronze really make. And when mistakes become obvious, they become easy to exploit. best of luck in League and life.
Edge of Daybreak1 votesThis is why you guys are useless. Do you honestly think that 1 champ can make up for 4 bad players that feed. It wouldn't matter how good I am. I would lost every time.
I had a ranked game today that would have been over at 20 if not for the enemy vayne hard carrying her team for to 39 minutes. She got caught by leona going all in on her and they lose. but yes 1 person has a ton of power if they play well. I've fed games and won just because some one else carried.
Lyless1 votesI had a ranked game today that would have been over at 20 if not for the enemy vayne hard carrying her team for to 39 minutes. She got caught by leona going all in on her and they lose. but yes 1 person has a ton of power if they play well. I've fed games and won just because some one else carried.
Just because something can happen a few times doesn't mean it will continue. I don't have anyone good on my teams. Remember you are at a higher level than me.
Wînter Fox2 votesEvery single one of us who plays ranked goes through the same thing. Either carry your "bad" team or stay in Bronze 5. Pick one.
NemeBro1 votesSomeo
I keep asking what can I do about constantly getting grouped with teammates who fight and argue and what I can do about getting out of Bronze level 5? And I constantly get no answer. So, I see what this forum is about. Not answering questions and looking down on new players!
Just a glance at your stats informs me that you play badly and are not above the bronze fives you play with.
Once you realize the problem is you and not your team, you'll start climbing.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1863080200/217527769?tab=overview
Look at this game for example, where it seems fairly clear that you were the one who held your team back.