Bring Back The Old Rune System + Make Runes Free

Draconian565·11/20/2018, 2:53:53 PM·108 votes·18,689 views

These Stat Shards are just baby forms of runes. It provides limited customization, which is something I found great about the old rune system.

Want to go full AS and no defense? You could! Want to go full Armor/MR because you're against a ranged lane bully? YOU COULD!

112 Comments

Horrible Human11/20/2018, 3:12:13 PM49 votes

Agreed. A million times. This is all that system EVER needed.

Free runes. The gift of choice.

MissMikasa11/20/2018, 2:55:31 PM39 votes

I agree. This new system is stupid and only a money gimick for Riot. And it's a slap in the face to all the veteran players.

This whole season 8 would have been so much better with the old system.

Midg3t11/20/2018, 3:14:06 PM17 votes

inb4 some1 comments 'old runes were boring these are visible a-a-and flashy and exciting, youre stupid wahhhh'

ChristmasTime11/20/2018, 6:57:55 PM16 votes

YES PLEASE! BRING BACK OLD SYSTEM!

Dr Dog11/20/2018, 4:21:24 PM16 votes

honestly this new system is a trainwreck keystone wise, there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with the old keystones, everyone had one that fit and it was great, now? some champions (mostly mages) have no good caster type keystone, comet is basically nothing unless you have some cc and aery got worked back into a support keystone. fervor of battle got replaced by conqueror and thats been a balance nightmare, dark harvest was pretty much only used by people that could abuse it, its just been one big mess

Original Sin11/20/2018, 9:25:00 PM16 votes

If there's one thing riot need to revert, its these godawful runes.

Jackin ur lawn11/20/2018, 11:57:34 PM11 votes

Dude I hate these runes so much and I mean the ones released 8.23 I don't understand why they did this but I have been enjoying leona up until this point. It doesn't matter what I take people just explode me EVEN THOUGH IM SUPPOSED TO BE A TANK?????????????? Like I don't understand. I faced a team where 4/5 had DH and no one could survive them not even the bulked up Darius. DH was a good "underground" choice but now it's just ridiculous lol and cheap like the new prestige Akali. And to remove the bonus stats on the branches entirely is an ugly decision. Riot really has a knack for a ruining a good patch because of a select few people and I think I'm fully at the end of my straw on this one lol.

LiL Bunnie FuFuu11/20/2018, 6:57:16 PM10 votes

Yeah but we got 15-90 scaling hp. Poggers!!!

lol runes reforged

SwiftKitten8811/21/2018, 12:02:08 AM9 votes

and give us our season 4 masteries back... and not this "keystone" crap

FilDaFunk11/21/2018, 12:14:59 AM9 votes

Are we just removing keystones? I'm all for that tbh, would help a great deal against the damage creep and make champs' power their actual abilities.

Cavesloth11/21/2018, 1:13:05 AM9 votes

Bout the only thing that would make me consider coming back, so ya got my vote. Riot won't do it thought, they actively HATE their players unless they are wearing an e-sports jersey, and even then the argument could be made they hate them too for making all of us endure this shitty season.

By Force of Will11/21/2018, 8:44:32 AM8 votes

I agree. There are some nice things about the new runes but the old system was just far superior in terms of customization. It really is a shame Riot wanted to take control of another entire portion of the game.

9NINE11/21/2018, 9:36:06 AM7 votes

it won't happen. Whoever is in charge for the state of the game probably doesn't play the game.

suicide is fun11/20/2018, 7:01:39 PM7 votes

Ye but then we wouldn't have the new dh, a very balanced and not at all super snowball rune that totally isn't so broken literally everyone is taking it :D

Salamencę11/21/2018, 2:26:17 AM7 votes

100% agree. Old runes and masteries were what made this game fun.

Ameliea11/20/2018, 8:38:21 PM6 votes

But what do you gain from that? Yes you could run wacky set ups, but what benefit does it really give except the "lol look at what random runes im running" Stats are too one dimensional and most champions only have one playstyle, so you can not really Innovate in that regard.

95% of people will run the optimal runes for a champ, which will be found out day 1 if theyre simple stat increases like the old rune system.

Also, for example, do you balance the ranged bullies around the enemy bringing 30 armor level 1? In the old system maybe 1 out of a hundred people had such specialized pages, you had to spent alot and set it up before you even queued up.

Imagine you can specialize your rune page in the game lobby to this degree, it would completely throw balance out of the window. And it doesnt take any skill to observe "Oh the enemy is AD, so im taking 30 armor this game".

The choice with the Old rune system was and will be an illusion and should not be repeated

Buff Riven Plz11/20/2018, 10:14:45 PM6 votes

Yes please!!!

Hügö11/21/2018, 8:12:14 PM5 votes

To be honest there are little to no devs who will ever admit that they were wrong. So they make changes which are close to the good system they then fucked up. It is most likely this scenario now.

PlebonicEbonic11/21/2018, 2:32:12 PM4 votes

i miss running Ad marks, armor seals, and flat CDR quints/glyphs on my bard top. ever since the changes top has been pretty tough for me as bard.

10% flat cdr at level 1 was great along with 9 armor and 10 AD

old rune system made a lot of unorthodox picks work.

Yokkers11/22/2018, 1:42:35 AM3 votes

100% agreed, I knew as soon as I saw them put this rune system on pbe it would be awful... Baby proofing corners keeping people from being statistical outliers etc... The champs that had different playstyles have just been put in the gutter...

To make it even worse, dark harvest is 100% mindless now, it used to require you to use an auto attack but now just procs with damage... More mindless damage, exactly what this game needs /sarcasm

StarGuardianWeeb11/21/2018, 2:08:46 AM3 votes

actually these are just masteries imo. Which were way better anyways.

but opinions are like assholes everyone has one and knows two so what do i know

Chaotic Yasuo 11/20/2018, 3:06:35 PM2 votes

? Actually you are forced to pick almost 1 of a defensive rune,then you have the flex for choosing,sounds stupid to go hp/armor/mr with veigar but,sounds stupid going with malphite dmg/as (excepting u going ap or tank veigar)

ModCaptainMårvelous11/21/2018, 5:22:43 PM1 votes

Yikes, hard no.

Any conversation always devolves into literally the same arguments:

"IT WAS MORE UNIQUE!"

No, it was not. There were factually wrong choices that had no benefit. Even the worst rune choice currently has value now.

"IT WAS MORE CREATIVE!"

Again. no. There was a "correct' rune path. Any build people attest was a unique adaption was either a meme build (LOL FULL ARMOR) or unhealthy for the game (Invalidating a champion because you went full armor)

"MORE CHOICES!"

*Less choices. 3 reds, 3 Blues, 3 yellows. If you didn't run specific runes, you were doing it wrong and trolling.

Old runes were bad. Low skill, high impact and little in the way of strategy or creativity. Anyone who wants them back likely just wants to go a meme build they think is meta (1 crit rune winning lane btw) before realizing their creative/unique choice is bad and going the full meta comp of runes for every champ.