Your Opinions on ZED

zzPHaiNT·Apr 16, 2015·1 votes·1,049 views

Hmmm... Zed. A champion that is really fun to talk about and to see what others think about him. He is fairly popular in every division. Maybe people play him because they think he is fun and they like his kit, but I think most people play him based off the LCS or people like Bjergsen.

Now my opinion on Zed. I think Zed is fairly unpredictable, especially in divisions like bronze, silver, gold, and even platinum. Now I'm not saying every Zed I is bad, but I am saying that I think most of them are. I mean tons of things counter his most impactful ability; flash, QSS, Hourglass, Blinks, ETC. From my experience in Plat and under, I have seen MANY Zeds that just feed games because of their greedy plays, and when the Zed gets them low, the Mid laner just uses Hourglass. Now I may be wrong... Idk... inform me about your ideas on Zed. :D

19 Comments

DrCyanideApr 16, 20154 votes

The biggest complaint I have about Zed is that there's only one way to go against him. Rush Hourglass. You can't poke him down, you'll run out of mana. You can't influence his build path, you don't have the damage or the mana to make him afraid of you early.

I also find it funny that so many people talk about the counters to Zed's ult, but how are they all that different than the counters to Zigg's ult? Or Viktor's ult? QSS is your only difference, and even then the MR will help you out. The difference is people don't feel trapped into building these items against other champions.

zzPHaiNTApr 16, 20151 votes

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The biggest complaint I have about Zed is that there's only one way to go against him. Rush Hourglass. You can't poke him down, you'll run out of mana. You can't influence his build path, you don't have the damage or the mana to make him afraid of you early.

I also find it funny that so many people talk about the counters to Zed's ult, but how are they all that different than the counters to Zigg's ult? Or Viktor's ult? QSS is your only difference, and even then the MR will help you out. The difference is people don't feel trapped into building these items against other champions.

Not really. Early game, his q is most of his damage. Stay behind minions and just keep stepping back and forth. You don't even NEED to rush Hourglass. It is good to rush, but in no means does it cause you to lose lane. When Zed ulties early, his only damage is his q. I think it is easy to side step his q, or another option you have flash. Even in todays META... everyone had a blink, they are tanky, or they simply have cc for him.

qetzelApr 16, 20152 votes

Well, for a start Zed jumps on you. You know exactly where he will land. A well timed CC will stop him dead.

And you also know exactly where he is going to go before he goes there. His mobility is predictable.

magic poleApr 17, 20151 votes

On AP mids, try: 1x armor quint 4x flat armor seal 5X scaling armor seal fill with whatever else.

The flats and quint are basically = 9 flat seals. After 6, your scalings really start to kick in and I find that if you were at least even with zed, you can start to pull ahead. If he's still trouble, buy a cloth armor for a later zhonya's or just build the zhonya's if you're losing badly.

I like to rush CDR and AP with this rune setup, and then you can more easily outplay him with the extra damage, mana regen, and spell spam. The scaling armor gives you a little wiggle room so that you can build more damage sooner. idk, try it out, it's worked out for me.

I really don't like the idea of rushing zhonya's. It gimps your laning phase too much because of it's price and lack of power pre-completion. Moreover, by the time you can afford it, Zed will probably be roaming, thus the 1v1 power you gained is somewhat nullified. Additionally, when Zed sees you bought ZH, he's just gonna start ulting the adc or supp for easy gold.

Another option would be barrier :)

SEKAIApr 16, 20151 votes

QSS needs an AP build path.

And his ulti escape is better to only be given after he scored an assist or kill (I would say kill only due to his character in general, and the fact he already has another).

zzPHaiNTApr 16, 20151 votes

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QSS needs an AP build path.

? really, because it build it into a mercurial scim... or however you spell it... which is an adc item

SEKAIApr 16, 20152 votes

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? really, because it build it into a mercurial scim... or however you spell it... which is an adc item

Yeah but mages are suffering against Zed because Zhonya costs 3300.

SmokinSickStyleApr 16, 20152 votes

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Mages are suffering, it's not like Zhonya is core on every single goddamn mf.king mage there is!

An AP QSS won't fix things, you are still gonna rush it and have mana problems as usual.

Zed's only strong phase is in his laning phase, and since this is where mages suck against people like Zed, he might get fed more often than other champs.

Zed's lategame fights are so horrible it's not even funny (Implying both teams have full build and not just some random one sided stomp.)

SEKAIApr 16, 20151 votes

I read my comment then I read your first 3 lines, it makes 0 sense. Why Zhonya is not a good idea is just as you said, it's not a core fundamentally, but you're required to build it against Zed and it costs 3300, and that's the problem.

QSS has no AP build path rendering those AP guys who bought it, completely wasting an item slot.

Zed is not the best in team fights true, but that really isn't saying anything much since it's not like the entire game is all about team fighting.

djjomonApr 16, 20152 votes

There was a time that QSS didn't build into anything

Live2LetDieApr 16, 20151 votes

A zed that knows how to place his shadows and use his slow is a dangerous zed. A fed zed forces mid lanes to buy hourglass and adcs to buy qss.

zzPHaiNTApr 16, 20151 votes

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A zed that knows how to place his shadows and use his slow is a dangerous zed. A fed zed forces mid lanes to buy hourglass and adcs to buy qss.

Yeah and im saying i rarely see a good zed in plat and under... and even if they force the mid lane to rush hourglass, it is still a good counter item and you can get it fairly fast, even if you are getting zoned, i mean if you are getting zoned hard, just get a bit of help from the jungler and scare him off. Maybe even freeze it for the feeling that you are getting ganked.

TavishApr 16, 20151 votes

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A zed that knows how to place his shadows and use his slow is a dangerous zed. A fed zed forces mid lanes to buy hourglass and adcs to buy qss.

Anyone who is good at x, is a "dangerous x", every played against a Brand who doesn't miss his Stun? Can't qss death.

SleepyLionCubApr 16, 20151 votes

I honestly think zed is in a great position balance wise. I know its the unpopular opinion, but yea, He doesnt have lock down cc, he has energy costs, and his ult is completely skill based for damage.