Name 1 viable melee dmg champion

Jax Cramer··2 votes·1,560 views

Who is not Yasuo or Irelia

Hint: There is none.

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Sariat17 votes

Olaf

Jax Cramer1 votes

Built full tank.

Sariat11 votes

But still somehow manages to do a shitton of damage, especially midgame.

EndlessSorcerer4 votes

Build doesn't matter.

Olaf is picked almost entirely for his high damage (for ganks and clears) and his ability to kill the enemy backline during teamfights.

He is a damage-oriented melee champion even if he doesn't build offensive items.

Shikigami5 votes

http://champion.gg/

What's this, Nunu highest winrate jungle? Jarvan highest top? I'm really not surprised that you're this blind to the game considering you're from EUW LOL.

Jax Cramer1 votes

Yeah Nunu is build dmg...try to read the title next time.

ALso pretty sure EUW is considered a much better server and has produced far better players than NA.

Shikigami1 votes

"is build dmg" LOL. How about Jarvan? Honestly I thought you meant "melee champion" and judging by how poor your English is, it wasn't really a stretch. By the way good talent you're producing. Including G2 Trick (Season 6 MVP, from Korea), Huni (Season 5 MVP, from Korea) .

Sariat11 votes

Yeah but nunu isn't a damage dealer, he's more of a disruptor tank.

TWITCHTV ERONATE1 votes

calling him blind and insulting him while saying dumb shit. choose one

i'm glad you are so good at this game to consider nunu a damage champion. you can't consider jarvan top viable with a sample of 0.20% playrate

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Honestly, Nunu can deal a lot of damage when built appropriately.

A fairly common build on him a couple patches ago was along the lines of: item 3111 item 1413 item 3748 item 3078 item 3143 item 3026

You could gib squishy champions rather easily.

TWITCHTV ERONATE1 votes

well i guess that works but at least he's not meant to be a damage dealer xD it's similar to how you call assassins with tanky items bruisers instead of tanks

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

it's similar to how you call assassins with tanky items bruisers instead of tanks

Unless they are Ekko.

Ekko legitimately has enough utility to be considered a tank when building defensive items.

TWITCHTV ERONATE1 votes

I guess that works, but it got so nerfed it's not even worth playing it anymore to be honest

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

It has been worth playing almost the entire season.

It will only really disappear in pre-season with the assassin update gutting tank Ekko. I still can't believe it took them this long to remove the base percentage heal on his ultimate and the slow from his passive...

TWITCHTV ERONATE1 votes

Eh, I think he's been bad for a few pathes now :P It's only my opinion though, since he has been under 48% winrate since like 6.16 (which is kind of bad..? i guess) He falls off so hard that he's almost useless later onto the game

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

He has been weakened, but he is still a pain in the ass at higher tiers of play.

Between Trinity Force and Fervor of Battle, he can still kill squishy champions rather easily. Meanwhile, he still possesses a massive amount of utility, safety and mobility which can make him difficult to actually punish.

Stephenizgod2 votes

i don't mean to be rude but you are mistaken on what both Viable and Damage Dealer means.

Viable means a champion is not intentionally weak like Kalista or Azir. In this case most of the roster is "viable".

Damage Dealers do not necessarily need to build full damage, champions like Hecarim, Olaf, Garen, Darius, and Volibear tend to build Bruiser, Juggernaut, or even full Tank. Their goal however is primarily to deal damage or they deal a lot of damage due to the nature of their kit (like Volibear who deals more damage based on his tankiness). These would fit under the category of Damage Melee champions.

TWITCHTV ERONATE1 votes

I didn't really mean viable, my bad, since he used the highest winrate stat i thought he meant viable as in strong. as you see i'm eu so my english is limited lol

about rudeness, i don't get offended that easily dw man xD if you wanna flame me just go on, free yourself

I agree with you though, the champions you listed are bruisers and are meant to do damage, but nunu is a tank (from what i know, unless you go the titanic hydra build) and i don't think his damage is that special. His kit isn't revolved about damage compared to someone like hecarim who is meant to dive the backline and has abilities that help him do that. Nunu just soaks most of the damage and even though he's melee, I don't think you can call him a damage dealer. By that logic, every single champion in the game is a damage dealer

Stephenizgod1 votes

I don't want to flame, it just sounded a lot meaner in my head when I was just being blunt. So I thought I would clarify I wasn't being rude, just straightforward.

What I mean when I say Damage Dealer is that their kit is meant to just deal damage. It doesn't need to deal a lot of damage, but it is their primary goal. You are right though Nunu is not the best example, he is more of a tank than a damage dealer. His Q is for chasing and his ult is for catching or team fighting.

Stephenizgod3 votes

Darius Diana Ekko Fiora Fizz Galio Illaoi Hecarim JarvanIV Jax Khazix Kled LeeSin MasterYi Mordekaiser Nasus Nocturne Nunu Pantheon Poppy Renekton Rengar Riven Sion Talon Trundle Vi Volibear Warwick MonkeyKing XinZhao Yorick Zac Zed Olaf

"viable" means they can be used in a match without being at a disadvantage just for being that champion. An example of a non-viable champion would be like Kalista who is intentionally weaker and terrible because she is so oppressive when given even a slight amount of power.

Their builds don't matter because their primary goal is to deal damage or they deal a lot of damage regardless of their build, even if they build full tank. They are all melee, whether they have ranged abilities or not is irrelevant.

I am Pacman2 votes

Jax, Darius, zed, diana, fiora, illaoi, jarvan, kassadin, katarina, lee sin, nasus, vi, wukong, renekton, riven, rumble

Off Meta Evan1 votes

nasus, kassadin, and jax are far from viable right now.

Aptest1 votes

orly?

also, shyvana .

Off Meta Evan1 votes

kassadin lost his usefulness when he got his R kneecapped, he was no longer an anti mage, and he's no longer hyper mobile, he's good at clean up and thats about it. if you want a champ thats ap and good at dueling mages Viktor if you want a champ thats mobile and ap while being able to duel mages. Ahri Diana Leblanc.

nasus unfortunately is super gutted by the adc meta. champions like Caitlyn Lucian and Jhin make it impossible to do anything in fights, you're just gonna get kited and crit into oblivion. add in a lot of really bad match ups that are meta like Jayce Kennen Rumble and he's far from good right now.

jax same problem as nasus only to a lesser degree on kiting but a higher degree on match ups i would argue.

now don't get me wrong, you can still be a fucking legend and just play these guys and do well but thats you being gud, not the champ being viable.

Aptest1 votes

sure mate that's why Poppy hasn't seen a single appearance in worlds, oh sorry she was a super contested pick i did not notice her because she was constantly harassed from range by Trundle and Shen oh they are actually melee or why TahmKench hasn't seen the light of day since forever, oh sorry Samsung says get him and get him first...

Off Meta Evan1 votes

i didn't say anything about poppy :|

I am Pacman2 votes

Wtf is your definition of viable?

Top tier doesnt mean viable, how much they have been played in pro play also doesn't translate to viable

Primaquarius2 votes

Blitzcrank Darius Diana Ekko Fiora Garen Illaoi JarvanIV Khazix MasterYi Nocturne Olaf RekSai Riven Shyvana Tryndamere Udyr Vi Volibear Warwick MonkeyKing XinZhao Yorick

Pick three

LU Vanilla Rice 1 votes

I like the blitzcrank pick ;)

Primaquarius1 votes

Yup, some people don't realize Blitz is a physical fighter who became viable as a support solely because of his Q

Zach Sandwhich1 votes

Darius

Jax Cramer1 votes

Only good in low elo.

macdshifty1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jax Cramer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AAd1Fp5i,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-11-08T18:36:16.328+0000)

Only good in low elo.

well that's perfect for you :)

Jax Cramer1 votes

I am higher elo than you lmao.

macdshifty1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jax Cramer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AAd1Fp5i,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-08T18:41:13.641+0000)

I am higher elo than you lmao.

  1. Being higher mmr then me isn't a benchmark for not being in low elo
  2. Would you happen to know the going rate?
  3. You are wrong to begin with to state all the listed champions are only good in low elo
  4. Liquid
  5. Maybe you could have figured all this out if you weren't euwwww
1 800 Top Lane1 votes

shots fired

Zach Sandwhich1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jax Cramer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AAd1Fp5i,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-11-08T18:36:16.328+0000)

Only good in low elo.

Darius only good in low elo LUL

Sona Ping1 votes

Aatrox What's my prize?

Jax Cramer2 votes

Beats me.

dakota saturn1 votes

Aatrox Darius Diana Ekko Fiora Fizz Garen Illaoi Irelia JarvanIV Jax Khazix etc. I got bored.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Kha'zix is one of the strongest junglers at the moment and builds primarily damage items.

1 800 Top Lane1 votes

He is one of the strongest because of all the free damage he gets for playing normally.

Isolation damage is absurd.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Kha'zix doesn't get "free damage".

That would be like saying Nautilus and Sejuani have free CC, Ahri has free sustain or Rammus has free defensive stats.

It is part of their kit and they are balanced around it. That does not by any means make it free.

1 800 Top Lane2 votes

Nautilus and Sejuani are gated by mana.

Kha'zix could have zero mana and still do isolation damage.

What do you put into it that makes you "buy" isolation? Nothing.

If you don't buy it, and its not gated, its free.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Kha'zix could have zero mana and still do isolation damage.

Considering isolation only affects Kha'zix's Q and it has a mana cost, he couldn't.

It is an ability like any other, only amplified because it has part of his ultimate's power budget. It suffers similar gating limitations as all other mana-using champions face.

Dabrick011 votes

If you were trying to make a downvote farm, you did well, cuz that post was pretty stupid.

dakota saturn1 votes

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If you were trying to make a downvote farm, you did well, cuz that post was pretty stupid.

Making downvote farms is one of my favorite hobbies.

Swiftstrike41 votes

This thread isn't viable.

Shuyin1781 votes

Renekton If you think I'm wrong then you know less than Jon Snow.

boo9101 votes

Warwick deal with it

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