Post-Cinderhulk: Lee Sin is useless, if you pick him in my ranked = get reported!

Arsames·Jun 26, 2015·3 votes·1,482 views

Riot, please buff Lee Sin, I don't play him, but I am sick of seeing him picked in my team in my ranked games, every time he is picked, we lose. NEWS FLASH IDIOT TROLLS IN DIAMOND LEAGUE: LEE SIN SUCKS! AFTER CINDERHULK WAS INTRODUCED, HE BECAME SHIT TIER JUNGLER!

STOP! STOP! STOP PICKING HIM IN MY RANKED GAMES!

ANYONE THAT PICKS LEE SIN IN MY RANKED GAMES IS GETTING AUTOMATICALLY REPORTED FOR ASSISTING ENEMY TEAM.

25 Comments

Linna ExcelJun 26, 20156 votes

Lee is fine. Nerfing cinderhulk didn't do anything to him because his biggest impact is in the early game before he can afford one. In the end, as long as you know how to play Lee (and that's his biggest hurdle) he's still strong.

ArsamesJun 26, 20151 votes

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Lee is fine. Nerfing cinderhulk didn't do anything to him because his biggest impact is in the early game before he can afford one. In the end, as long as you know how to play Lee (and that's his biggest hurdle) he's still strong.

NOPE! LEE SIN IS SHIT, ABSOLUTE GARBAGE, ALLWAYS LOSE WHEN WE HAVE HIM IN MY TEAM. ANY OTHER JUNGLER IS MORE USEFUL THAN THAT BLIN IDIOT.

khorneyJun 26, 20152 votes

you are mistaken its official warwick is the weakest jungler in the game

ArsamesJun 26, 20151 votes

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you are mistaken its official warwick is the weakest jungler in the game

Warwick is actually useful, can suppress a high priority target and we 1 shot it, unlike Lee who is useless.

Möral SupportJun 26, 20151 votes

I feel like you've never heard of the "crowd control" ability to stop ww ult.

khorneyJun 26, 20151 votes

Lol Ikr ww can't 1 shot anyone with his ult . unless you have mad ad its not happening because you have to build ww tanky. If you go offense your going to get smashed

khorneyJun 26, 20152 votes

Ohh man the 1 thing he can use every 100 secs or what ever the CD is. Lee sin can actually tank unlike ww nonexistent having ability . ww is a better top laner then jungler .

TheRakkunJun 26, 20151 votes

I like warwick, he scales well with onhit items and devourer, but he's not got much initiation

TheRakkunJun 26, 20154 votes

You are making some of the worst posts today, you claim to be diamond but cry like a bronze, and I should know, I deal with enough of them.

All the champs you beg to be buffed are broken beyond belief and bring an unfun environment to the game, they're not going to be buffed, best you'll get is a rework that will probably gut them and their identity, that's what you get with champions that CertainlyT helped work on.

Möral SupportJun 26, 20152 votes

I don't think CertainlyT needs fired, but he needs a shock collar when he adds something too broke for the game.

"Okay give a 1500 range dash and a 1500 base damage - ZAPPPPP!" "Maybe a reactivable ul- ZAPPPPP!"

TheRakkunJun 26, 20151 votes

Oh boy i'd love to see that, heard he's working on something at the moment, same time as Tahm and ekko were being worked on... God help us.

Möral SupportJun 26, 20151 votes

Isn't it funny how people complained of lee being too broke but now he's too weak? They didn't even touch his kit.

OxBakerJun 26, 20151 votes

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Isn't it funny how people complained of lee being too broke but now he's too weak? They didn't even touch his kit.

It's only the Lee Sin mains complaining. What player doesn't want their champ buffed even when they are already strong.

NemeBroJun 26, 20151 votes

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You are making some of the worst posts today, you claim to be diamond but cry like a bronze, and I should know, I deal with enough of them.

All the champs you beg to be buffed are broken beyond belief and bring an unfun environment to the game, they're not going to be buffed, best you'll get is a rework that will probably gut them and their identity, that's what you get with champions that CertainlyT helped work on.

CertainlyT didn't help work on Lee Sin, the Blind Monk.

He is pretty weak at the moment, but that's mostly because the metagame doesn't favor what he does. He's not particularly good in team fights compared to the tank jungler he is probably jungling against.

TheRakkunJun 26, 20151 votes

IIRC It wasn't his but he added to it near the end of it's development, doesn't exactly stop his kit from being broken.

I mean Poppy is broken, she isn't good, but god would i hate to play against her.

ArsamesJun 26, 20151 votes

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You are making some of the worst posts today, you claim to be diamond but cry like a bronze, and I should know, I deal with enough of them.

All the champs you beg to be buffed are broken beyond belief and bring an unfun environment to the game, they're not going to be buffed, best you'll get is a rework that will probably gut them and their identity, that's what you get with champions that CertainlyT helped work on.

I don't claim to be diamond, Iam diamond: http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Arsames

Lee Sin wasn't made by CertainlyT and CertainlyT is the best designer in the game, every champ he designed or helped finalize are awesome champs: Darius Zed Yasuo Zyra Kalista Thresh . Shame some of them are overnerfed and need to be buffed.

TheRakkunJun 26, 20151 votes

No but yasuo was and you were talking about him before

Now I know you're just a troll mate, you keep posting these and getting downvoted to oblivion, you think certainlyT is a good champion designer, and you ask for the buffs of other toxic champions, next you'll be asking if Riot can buff Shaco so he scales better lategame.

ArsamesJun 26, 20151 votes

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No but yasuo was and you were talking about him before

Now I know you're just a troll mate, you keep posting these and getting downvoted to oblivion, you think certainlyT is a good champion designer, and you ask for the buffs of other toxic champions, next you'll be asking if Riot can buff Shaco so he scales better lategame.

Yasuo is one of the top 5 weakest champions in the game and needs massive buffs to become viable. People flame you for picking Yasuo in diamond, he is trash tier. Only bronze/silver/gold noobs think Yasuo is viable.

TheRakkunJun 26, 20151 votes

I wouldn't say he is unviable in high elo given that "tip impact" the 3rd highest player in NA has yasuo as his second most played champion. Keep in mind he is a high skillcap champion like Azir and as such his winrates will likely be skewed towards the lower end.

ArsamesJun 26, 20151 votes

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I wouldn't say he is unviable in high elo given that "tip impact" the 3rd highest player in NA has yasuo as his second most played champion. Keep in mind he is a high skillcap champion like Azir and as such his winrates will likely be skewed towards the lower end.

XWX still lives in S3-S4 era and his penta kill with Yasuo. Those days are long gone. Other LCS players have said that during their skrims, when XWX picks Yasuo, they think he is trolling/not serious.

Azir is not a high skillcap champ, Azir is easy and faceroll, Yasuo is 10x harder than Azir. Azir is also 10x stronger than Yasuo, that is why Azir is perma picked/banned in LCS and Yasuo is ignored for over a year now.

TheRakkunJun 26, 20151 votes

Azir is not easy, try him and you will see how hard he is to control, And Azir is in no way a faceroll champion, if you literally rolled your face on the keyboard you will die.

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Azir_-_The_Emperor_of_the_Sands Also he's not 100& pickban so your argument is invalid.

He's also never been above a ~53% winrate in master= within this month

Troy242621Jun 26, 20153 votes

I'd like to dispel the myth that LeeSin is no longer a huge pain in the ass to deal with. He's still just as overloaded and annoying as ever. He has been phased out in the meta. You still can't punish him for his mistakes 4/5ths of the time and he still has all of his strengths.

Not sure why I've seen a lot of posts regard him as weak now. The problem with using him is that he's an early game dominater and turtling is pretty effective right now, which means that other junglers can currently offer more. He's not weak, he's not currently favored. Soon as the meta shifts to something he excels at, he'll be back to being a bastard again.

IcyPepperJun 26, 20151 votes

You can't get reported for playing a champion, you goof...

dEAdbUsJun 26, 20151 votes

I'm so happy - cya Lee Sin, was hating you so much in prev season. Hope Riven will leave meta too.

However Lee is still nice - most ppl just cant build him proper. He needs some damage items before finish his build with tank items. And then he'll be beast. Full tank build doesnt work on him.