@meddler why do you want to nerf Ashe again ?

ahmadgazwan·2/23/2017, 3:10:58 AM·13 votes·2,055 views

ashe is already bad in solo Q ,you want to make her unvaible in solo Q just to lower her power in pro play ,i know the nerf is on her E but the E is on a 90s cooldwon on rank one so i can't see how can you nerf such an ability, ashe has a 48%~46% WR ever since you killed the Q in 6.20 she doesn't have enough power in her kit to take away . ashe changes since she was meta : 6.17 Q duration down + R dmg down 6.18 W cooldwon increased 6.20 Q dmg down + Q aa reset removed 7.5? nerfs to her E just my opinion, you are free to disagree either way i am not playing her anymore,just too hard to pull off and too unrewording in solo Q

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Blakiepug2/23/2017, 6:30:04 AM6 votes

Why do all of my favorite and most-played champions meet the same cruel fate of endless nerfs patch after patch despite not being strong picks in the first place? Ashe Azir TahmKench Do I just have bad taste in champions?

THE RlVER KlNG2/23/2017, 12:23:25 PM4 votes

So they'll nerfs ashe arbitrarily but refuse to hit the guy with a 50+ pickrate and and 52% winrate with anything meaningful

Fuck off balance team

Blakiepug2/23/2017, 6:33:25 AM3 votes

Ashe is one of the last ADC's we should be worried about. Jhin Jhin Jhin Jhin In case anyone missed it, Jhin was first-picked while Camille was open recently in the LCS.

LankPants2/23/2017, 5:54:40 AM3 votes

If Riot's going to nerf Ashe's E to try to bring her down a little in competitive they should do a hard revert of the 6.20 at the same time. Those changes did nothing to curb Ashe as a competitive pick but utterly dumpstered her in Solo Queue. They just need to admit that the 6.20 changes were bad, didn't achieve their goal, go back on them and try something different.

Elisheva2/23/2017, 3:46:14 AM2 votes

"bad in solo q..." I pick her when I want a free win because she can be completely overbearing.

Sexy Jack Rabbit2/23/2017, 7:52:25 AM2 votes

Riot balances around professional play.

h5LYF41Lam2/23/2017, 3:55:11 PM1 votes

Beause she is played in the LCS,the champion is complete garbage in solo queue,she even had a moderate winrate/playrate even before the nerfs and the lethality rework,she is played in the LCS but she is not flashy enough therefore none LCS material.

Chembaron Yamada2/23/2017, 7:37:43 AM1 votes

Since some people here keep mentioning Ashe's lack of damage: From a design point of view, Ashe shouldn't deal as much damage as other marksmen.

You don't bring Ashe because she has superior damage. You bring her for superior utility (compared to other marksmen). She got perma slow with her AA, a vision tool on her E and a global long lasting stun on her R. She sacrifices damage for her utility.

Since this utility is pretty valuable in pro play (creating picks with R, having knowledge about the location of enemy jungler without leaving lane with E....), she is pretty effective there. I don't think the nerf is going to destroy her. But since she has so much utility, it may be the right decision to decrease it a bit.

Mira Arya Enthe2/23/2017, 3:04:38 PM1 votes

To be fair. The nerfs hit mostly only competitive play where she is strong. A tad too strong. The average Ashe won't feel it. But the truth is as long as Ashe is designed as she currently is, she will always be dumpstered in soloQ. She has the exact same problems as Ashe Pre-Rework.