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You've forced me out of my role, Riot

Daenerys THICC·1/20/2018, 4:29:10 AM·69 votes·3,807 views

It hurts to play top. Every game I either see a hyper tank top which I have literally no one in my roster that can out damage it except Darius or another hyper tank. If I pick said hyper tank then the enemy can just pick a ranged top and make my life a living hell. Actually, picking 90% of the melee roster makes it hell if you're fighting a ranged champion. You either pick a hyper tank or pick a carry champ like Riven and try to cheese with ignite Spellbook if you actually want to try and carry from top lane. Speaking of carrying, it's almost non existent when you're playing top. Unless you're doing a match up that favors you incredibly (Riven vsYasuo ), then you will have a harder time than every other role to carry. Almost every game I get so god damn tilted its actually unreal whenever I play top.

I switched to jungle yesterday and oh my what it massive difference it made. I ACTUALLY HAD CONTROL FOR ONCE EVER SINCE SEASON 5. I never tilted once when I switched to jungle, even the losing games. Using my knowledge as a top laner, I'm able to constantly camp the lane and make it a living hell, which is actually depressing because it's how I felt playing top as my main role. Nothing you can do when the jungler ganks you twice over making the enemy laner have such a massive advantage it is almost unrecoverable. If Riot wants to make top a shit lane, so be it. I'll just abuse Khazix to climb until you do something about it. It's sad I've been a top laner ever since Season 2 but I actually feel the need to switch roles because of how depressing the role has become.

Please Riot, make top relevant again.

95 Comments

Blåbæret1/20/2018, 5:19:28 AM25 votes

Rito says: if you wna carry you have to play ADC.

zero3561/20/2018, 6:19:58 AM21 votes

On a completely unrelated note, if Irelia is your standard for THICC You don't really know THICC

Colton1471/20/2018, 5:24:31 AM14 votes

#TopLanersIn2k18LUL

Anatera1/20/2018, 4:58:55 AM10 votes

Obviously Riot intended this.

Centralize1/20/2018, 5:23:41 AM8 votes

you are a living example of "if you can't beat em, join em."

XDDD1/20/2018, 12:41:49 PM7 votes

Playing bruisers, I personally don't really have issues in the laning phase as much as mid-late when you have to deal with the rest of the power-crept classes other than tanks (AD and Support primarily with Mages benefiting off of more diverse itemization and base MR removal).

If you manage to win lane as top, you just get bodied later on by the relic Kog + Lulu since AD and Support have been powercreeping since S5.

Top laners benefited so much from supports being just ward-bots and ADCs gradually scaling up in season 3 rather than spiking so fast like in S7+8. The role lost a ton of agency when they changed those two roles since top is more or less an island that is supposed to have more heavy impact mid-late game. Except it doesn't anymore since all the other classes are power-crept. Even broken shit like Ornn almost never crosses 50%WR since AD and Supp just run him over after the laning phase that he dominates.

If you main top and want to be able to play more games in a shorter time period, just go flip a coin instead.

Noxian Pride1/21/2018, 2:38:56 AM3 votes

Darius main here, we don't do damage anymore either. We consistently lose extended trades with tanks. Like, post-5-stacks-they're-still-fighting-for-some-godforsaken-reason, extended trades.

Apocalypsic1/20/2018, 10:20:46 AM3 votes

Honestly Riven feels like garbage.

All flash and no damage now, you have to be grossly ahead to do your own job now and even then you still have no impact on the game.

Its been feeling more like this ever since season 7 and this honestly is the absolute worst.

It doesn't matter if I hard feed or if I just straight up demolish my enemy laner, the end result is the same. Bot and mid carry the game, and jungle just exist to ruin our lives at the start of the game to further discourage any thinking of us enjoying the experience.

And its not just Riven, anyone with the job to be a melee but go in and do damage and is remotely squishy, and even those that aren't, just get fucked. Every thing just exists in this game now to ruin melee carries and its honestly disgusting.

I have 1.5million mastery on Riven and with how pathetic she feels right now, with how little impact I bring to the game from this shitty role, and how fucking awful and unfun the top matchups on her right now, it's driving me to give her up in ranked this season. This game state has already broken my soul, season 7 crippled it but season 8 is just the end of me enjoying that role.

Ultimately this sucks, because most of my favorite champions are top laners and I'm being forced to move to bot/support/mid to feel like I impact the game.

General Esdeath 1/20/2018, 11:32:49 AM3 votes

Even Dyrus is getting sick of it, and he's dealt with top lane being a shit hole for 3 years.

Riot, I don't know why you hate your playerbase but I wish you the best of luck.

Oxyrotten1/20/2018, 9:14:24 PM3 votes

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It hurts to play top. Actually, picking 90% of the melee roster makes it hell if you're fighting a ranged champion. Please Riot, make top relevant again.

This.

Pumping Iron1/20/2018, 10:28:15 AM2 votes

I moved to jungle aswell, i have a lot of fun.

Sushí Roll1/20/2018, 5:22:12 AM2 votes

I'm having the same problem, I'll do well in lane most of the time, but it's just so hard to carry from top, I have to be 5/0 coming out of lane just to have a chance.

PopcornBunni1/20/2018, 5:33:35 AM2 votes

Nah, tanks are being shit on in top too. Only viable tanks are the ones that are explicitly overtuned. They get dumpstered even more by the obnoxious poke meta than fighters and skirmishers.

As a matter of fact, the ratio of viable fighters to viable tanks up top (compared to the total who go there) is skewed in favor of fighters.

Only three tanks perform consistently in toplane -- Sion Malphite Maokai

Camille Darius Fiora Garen Illaoi Jax Kled Mordekaiser Nasus Olaf Pantheon Riven Rengar MonkeyKing

All doing, relative to tanks at least, fine.

The real issue is the burst poke that fuck over both fighters and tanks --

Teemo Jayce Kayle Heimerdinger Gangplank Gnar

LuaDotExe1/20/2018, 2:39:01 PM2 votes

Idk man, on the few times I've played top, I've actually been doing fine on AATROX of all people. Not on my match history anymore, but I generally don't have too much of an issue. I do understand where you're coming from, though, and I believe it's a side-effect of over-tuned champions (IE: Ornn) and Keystones (specifically Aftershock). Speaking of Ornn, I believe he's getting nerfed next patch.

Steelflame1/20/2018, 5:52:20 AM2 votes

Top lane is a shithole right now, I agree. I used to main it but have entirely swapped over to jungle/support. The only purpose of top lane atm is to try and get the jungler fed, so that they can enable other lanes, or be a hypertank that can be useful come teamfight time.

Arduno1/20/2018, 8:44:10 AM2 votes

Take teleport recall gank bot Kill bot Teleport to top like nothing happened Win the game!

Bob the Toastr1/20/2018, 4:12:11 PM1 votes

Summoner name checks out.

I will warn you, Kha is great for ganks and invades, but he is pretty useless in a teamfight if their team does it right. You'll spend half your time just walking around the edges of the fight looking for someone to pick.