Let's talk about this: Thornmail Rework

Agent Corgi··1 votes·2,641 views
6/29 PBE Update

On 6/29/17, there has been significant changes made to Thornmail. (None of this is currently set in stone, so it is subject to change.) ★ Thornmail

  • Total cost 2900g
  • Builds out of [Bramble Vest + Ruby Crystal + Warden's Mail + 600G]
  • Stats & Effects: +250 Health +75 Armor Unique Passive - Thorns: Upon being hit by a basic attack, reflects magic damage equal to 10% of your bonus armor plus 25, inflicting Grievous Wounds on the attacker for 1 second. Unique Passive - Cold Steel: When hit by basic attacks, reduce attacker's attack speed by 15% for 1 second.

So now, Thornmail has lost it's King-sized load of armor (100 Armor). In doing so, it has gained the ability to inflict GW & slow attackers attack speed like item 3110 /item 3143 . I am not an AD Carry main, but this would in turn make it so they would have to think twice in attacking those with this item. I'm not entirely too concerned with this item being changed, it's a new item being introduced that scares me. It now has a component item like item 3036 /item 3033 do in the form of a brand new item currently known as "Bramble Vest" . Here is what Bramble Pelt Vest does in-game so far. ★ Bramble Vest

  • Builds into Thornmail.
  • Total Cost: 900g.
  • Recipe: [Cloth Armor + Cloth Armor + 300G]
  • Stats & Effects: +35 Armor. Unique Passive - Thorns: Upon being hit by a basic attack, reflects 25 magic damage, inflicting Grievous Wounds on the attacker for 1 second.

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All in all, I think the changes are pretty good to Thornmail. However, I think Bramble vest could potentially be a slight problem as I think alot of people can make great use of this item in the early game considering it's currently priced at 900g. Since getting onto PBE is rather difficult for new users now adays, it's extremely hard to tell how this item works in Early Game for Tanks/Bruisers. Anyone have any thoughts on this item? (Again, None of this is set in stone. This is subject to change)

8 Comments

DarkRitual3 votes

I think it's fine to have a lesser version of an item's passive/active on a component item. Other classes have tons of items that provide them on top of lesser stat boosts. item 3035 item 3034 item 3123 item 3144 item 2015 item 3057 item 3044 item 3028 item 3077 item 3140 Whereas tanks have very few lesser effect items item 3751 item 3082 item 3211 item 2053

xJLx MCHammer2 votes

Stupid riot

as always, they think buffing an items just for tanks will work. If anyone can buy it, it just means anyone can abuse it. This new thormail is good. It will be bought a lot of non-tank champions. Is that bad? No but somehow i imagine it was meant to be something tanks should be getting

With that said, they should make the bonus work similarly to what Warmog's is now. It only works after you get X amount of armor. Also, they should increase the damage dealt from 10% to 13%

Agent Corgi1 votes

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Stupid riot

as always, they think buffing an items just for tanks will work. If anyone can buy it, it just means anyone can abuse it. This new thormail is good. It will be bought a lot of non-tank champions. Is that bad? No but somehow i imagine it was meant to be something tanks should be getting

With that said, they should make the bonus work similarly to what Warmog's is now. It only works after you get X amount of armor. Also, they should increase the damage dealt from 10% to 13%

See, I'm ok with the Thornmail. It's just I can see Junglers rush for a Bramble Vest & sit on it until they get their Jungle item (Cinderhulk being the enchant of course). I fear it might affect a champions clear speed by speeding it up a bit. 2 champions I can see doing this that are not Rammus are champions like Shyvana Udyr . I might be forgetting a few others, but those 2 come to mind for sure.

DarkRitual2 votes

Easily fixed with a reduced damage to minions/monsters, or specifying champion basic atttacks. Fully built Thornmail could easily also not have these restrictions.

Agent Corgi1 votes

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Easily fixed with a reduced damage to minions/monsters, or specifying champion basic atttacks. Fully built Thornmail could easily also not have these restrictions.

I like this, sounds like they could do this if Bramble Vest does do what I'm thinking it will do to early game.

DarkRitual1 votes

We're day 2 into pbe patch, so it's something that I wouldn't be surprised to see before the content lock, if it turns out to be that significant of a concern.

King of Demons1 votes

Bramble Vest is gonna destroy Lucian lol

TinyPara1 votes

Been saying grievous wounds should be added for a while, so glad to see it happen. I do think the vest needs a lower damage on it though

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